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Old 10.09.2006, 21:22
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Re: Mosques with or without Minarette?

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ok that is an interesting argument. I generally folow the principles that my mum thought me ages ago about not discussing " religion, money,politics" with other people, I think , for once, will throw in my personal ideas in there- sorry mum-:
That is a very interesting point but when religion directly has a negative impact on world then to be silent about it's negative impact and not debate or atleast point what the text books, preachers and plenty of followers openly say is equal to sticking the head in the sand and hoping that you never end up being at the receiving end of religious intolerance.

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If one calls oneself tolerant, this should include by definition, tolerance to all that doesnt share the same beliefs as you do. S .
Stamp very good point but I never said that I myself was tolerant in a self destructive way For example if a religion or it's followers say that a faithless person can be killed for trival meaningless things then me ignoring such views is not tolerance but sucidal stupidity. Me saying no to a minaret, church etc is not going to lead to anyones death. Religious teachings and religious intolerance do and have lead to millions of lost lives.

For example recently two Iranian teenagers got hanged for being gay according to Sharia law. How is being silent about it equal to being tolerant? AIDS is out of control in African countries but catholic priests forbid use of condoms. Should one be quiet/tolerant as religion is a personal thing?

If religion is such a personal thing then what is the need for such overt non-personal buildings? Surely people can still communicate with "God" without a minaret or bell tower. The bottom line is that organized religion (cult) is not a truely personal thing. Religious ideology is expansionist at it's core and one of the central aims being to conquer new lands, faithless people and followers of other religions. Anyone who does not agree with atleast my last point is truely innocent to religious facts, religious history and ground reality of our messed up world.

Note- I deliberately did not quote any religious text from any religion because that would be very off topic (if my posts are not already) plus something I don't want to get into for various reasons. Plenty of forums like that on the net.