I'll try to read all the pros and cons of each mountain near Zh, thanks. Also I've heard about "Pfannenstiel", but I am not very sure if this is a mountain, a place just to spend the day, a place where you can go up to the mountains, a forest? No idea! I know it's less than 30min from Zh, so it's very near and there are some paths to walk... but I don't have more info, as I don't understand exactly what they want to say in German!! Have you ever been there?