magic - my suggestion that some people might cut corners is absolutely not directed at you.

The comment about the 12, 11 and 8-year-olds by "John" is interesting as a 12-year-old would not need any safety device (according to the defined standard). If the 11-year-old is 150cm or taller, neither would he/she.

Interesting that a comment there from a former EF "star" makes reasonable sense (whilst also not understanding much of the proposal and offical markings which will be present on these seats) - until he states that "Heavy penalties should be given to parents or people who insist on driving long distances with their child unseated, or worse unbuckled." I'm sure a good amount of prangs happen on the local shopping run - which is usually a short journey.

Again, the child would have still fallen from the vehicle even if the pitbull was wearing a muzzle, sorry, the new-improved-super-carseat was being used.