Hi,

Thanks however what you show me is nothing I did not already find out myself on the forum and already read and has no information pertaining to my questions.

I know the permit G for non EU citizens still exists in theory. I already went through the process and did a lot of research myself before asking the questions and that is outlined in my prior posts.

I am most of all looking for people with recent experience in this themselves, positive or negative to respond to the post for the reasons I stated many times previously - the official word and actual practice of officials are often different.

Unfortunately it seems only overly helpful forum veterans feel the need to respond and send me information I already know of or irrelevant information (and like Papa Goose, groan at me repeatedly for asking questions about work permits on a work permit forum).

Thanks

Papa Goose - I am trying to find a position in GENEVA NOT VAUD. The company trying to hire me DID prove that I had expert skills they had actually been unable to find in Europeans or Swiss in months of a very real head hunting search they performed. I have already been through the whole process since last November if you bothered to read my initial post, which was in fact pretty descriptive of the situation. I was not trying to be a consultant in Geneva and start my own business - I was trying to get a normal job that had been on the market unfilled for quite some time already.

I am sorry I am not more grateful for your lack of ability to understand my desire for a response from someone who has experience in what I am asking about, instead of some EU national living in the country with nothing to tell me except what I already found out from reading the Canton of Geneva website, speaking to the Fiduciare we already used or using Google and this forum or as in your case, making nebulous references to things like SARLs which I already looked into with my accountant and found would be much too expensive for my situation even if I do decide to become a consultant.

My application was accompanied by an 'expert' who was paid by the company who wanted to hire me to get the permit application sorted out, but who obviously was unable to. Whether that was her lack of skill or the Geneva Canton's lack of volonté I have no way to know.

I saw the 'reason' given officially for the rejection, but the opinion of the Swiss man who was going to hire me was that the official reason (not living in the Frontalier Zone) was not the real one and that there was anti-American sentiment going on in what happened - thus my question on a public board to see what is going on with other NON EU citizens out there in the land of Frontaliers.

Hence my annoyance at many replies from well meaning people who do not read what I've already and just re-posted and send me the same information I've already found by reading the forum, as well as giving me information that has nothing to do with my status or just plain old being insulting jerks to me for no particular, such as yourself. I did not ask for you to respond to my post; you are the one who decided it was important enough for you to insult me and pull a superiority act.

I am not looking for an expert here - just someone who has ALREADY BEEN THROUGH IT and has some recent experience to share. Or someone with a useful link, not something to information ALREADY stated in my initial post, which is all I have gotten. I'd rather get no replies or people just saying, your situation is rare, than a bunch of people who think I have never heard of Google before or don't know how to research a forum, and who clearly do not bother to read my initial post, which was very clear about what I'd already done and knew about the issue.

That initial post was actually complimented for being very good and clear. I was trying to NOT WASTE the time of people such as yourself, who had actually nothing new to tell me, and target a response (albeit likely to be rare) from only people who might have shared my situation or knew someone who had been in my situation.

Excuse me for asking on a Swiss work permit board if someone has recently had similar experience or different experience to me around this particular work permit issue - since your situation is nothing like mine, and you have no insights to offer other than to insult me, I question your motives for even replying or your continual need to 'groan' at me for being ungrateful and not grovelling to thank you for pointing out the bloody obvious or what I've already tried myself.

Not sure where else I could try to find people in my same situation as the Cantonal office surely is not going to tell me honestly how they have treated applications similar to mine, and the French Fontalier sites do not have forums.

BTW - TENS OF THOUSANDS of EU national Frontalier workers do exist and it IS in fact quite easy for them to get their Swiss jobs as EU nationals - the process takes a few short weeks for them and is very straightforward - so stop being such a pretentious old fart and intimating that I what I want is somehow 'wrong' or 'extraordinary' compared to you or them.

BTW - I currently live in the area of France with the highest cost of living after Paris, and at the moment sometimes shop in Switzerland because it's often cheaper there than here. The fact is, from where I live, Geneva is the next closest large city to me and large cities are the one that tend to have the headquarters and data centers of corporations.

I already do have the same rights to live and work anywhere in Europe as an EU national due to my long residency and marriage (and thanks to 2003/109/EC ), but Switzerland does not recognize me as anything other than a 'third party national' though I have paid my taxes to an EU country for nearly a decade.

I never imagined there were thousands of people in my situation or there would have already been information out there for me to easily find by researching, but I was hoping for at least one or two to be lurking out there.

What I didn't realise was that there were such absolute asses as yourself on this forum who would decide to go out of their way attack a person for asking a well researched question to see if anyone did happen to have further information that was NOT already on Google.

You never had to reply with your snarky useless nebulous answer in the first place. Having no replies at all to my post could have been my 'answer', but it irks me to have lots of replies that are just repeating links to things I already read or telling me the rules about G permits which I already know about and in fact outlined in my FIRST POST.

If you don't have something useful or relevant to post, then don't bother to answer - how hard is that ? Or are there people like you here that are just forum addicts who feel the need to butt in where they don't have the experience, and insult people asking questions they don't have the answers for, just to give themselves and ego boost ?

Well I have found some studio apartments that are dirt cheap (and dirty), and think I may just buy one and let it out on the sly (preferably to an illegal alien) to get myself considered resident in Annemasse, and try the job market again in 6 months. At worst I'll become a slum lord, and at best I'll get a job out of it in GVA.