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Old 11.03.2010, 04:50
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A prostitute can well be a well functioning member of society. The circumcision to be banned primarily is the FEmale one. The male circumcision, whenever painful, is not health-damaging. The policy to be followed is to try to reduce the number of children to sensible levels, and exactly this is now done in many many countries around the globe.

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Most things we can get out of Google in this regard are press articles. And the journalists simply found it interesting to mention that the boy also was Brazilian.
Yeah female circumsision is mutilation because that takes away her ability to enjoy sex. It's totally different from male circumsision.

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The school has been very good in helping the children deal with this tragedy. This week there has been a psychologist on hand to talk to the children. I know it's been very difficult on their teacher too. Yesterday they all made pictures to put on Florian's grave. They are trying to help the kids understand as much as they can. It's just so sad.
That's good, yes someone needs to help them to understand and process what has happened.

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Once on a visit to Cairo to the organisation of Jihane es-Sadat and Suzanne Mubarak. I however don't remember the name of the organisation.

And circumcised men did NOT give the foreskin away, but it was taken away from them at age 9 or 10 or 11 . In many places it is done in hospitals nowadays ............., also here in Zurich btw.
I think circumsizing older boys is cruel, because they are big enough to know what's happeneing. But circumsizing babies is bad too because they don't use anestesia. Poor little things. I couldn't take having my baby being cut like that. Some people do it for sanitary reasons, I just don't know if I can take my baby being subject to that pain.

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Jesus . . . now we've moved on from overpopulation to circumcision.

Mods - can we close down this monstrosity or at least split it into somewhere like Off Topic, a separate thread in Life in Switzerland or Complaints Corner (LiB's natural habitat)?

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LOL! It's okay that's just how conversations shift sometimes.

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...no worries. But frankly, what is there to discuss. I don't have kids but sometimes I believe that parents make things harder than they seem. You can say that Billy had an accident...or Billy's father was a very bad man and that he did something very very bad to Billy...he then eventually will understand what happened. I don't favour this over dramatization of such an event as for a 6 year old, this may all be confusing and brining a friggin psychologist to a place will only underline a kids impression of something unusual that happened. Please don't get me wrong, I don't find this heartless atrocitiy in a way harmless...but a simple explanation should be sufficient to a 6 year old. I mean, think of all the war victims in Sierra Leone who had to witness their parents getting their limbs chopped off and here we worry on how to break down a dramatic event that none of the kids had to witness in the first place.
But how are all of those war victim kids doing mentally and pschologically as a reasult of seeing those things? The point is to tell the child in a way in which he's not traumatized.

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The child is dead and won't come to school anymore because it was killed by his unstable father. How terrible is that for a fellow classmate other than it is sad that his friend won't come to school anymore and that something bad has happened.
Because you are talking about news that will change a poor kid's whole world view, that someone his age, a kid like him can die, and that someone's parent is capable of killing them. Those are heavy things for innocent little kids. And little kids don't understand mental illness so they won't be able to fully understand why a good kid who was his friend was killed by his dad someone who is supposed to love him.

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OK. At this point I'm going to stop feeding the troll.
LOL!!!

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