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Re: The Wine Bore Thread

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I think it's also grown in Italy as Primitivo.
the Primitivo is a totally different product then the Zinfandel. I do NOT like Zinfandel but love Primitivo.

And strongly suppose that Zinfandel lovers will not like Primitivo

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In my opinion you can not classify wine in its flavors, you just like it or not so much and i think you will not want to serve a gewürztraminer with a roast anyway.
I wish there are all winebottles made with a screw top or plastic cork preventing the hassel with wrecked winebottles because of a rotting cork.
The screwtops only in the past two decades became what they are today. The plastic cork may be acceptably good in regard to its storage function but is seriously unpractical (opening can be awful)

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Wine Tour of Alsace

I did a wine tour of the area last summer and got wonderfully drunk for free.
Even though it is an area of France they are allowed to put the grape type on their bottles, mainly because it was for a long time part of Germany.
The wine bottles from Alsace are tall, elegant and thin..think of the wine the French Archeologists gives Indie's Girlfriend in Raiders of the lost Arc.

The area mainly produces white sweet wines (the red I tried was terrible)
Grand Cru AOC on the bottle means it is a premier wine.

The big wine from the area is Gewürztraminer, which is a very sweet wine which surprisingly goes well with Asian food. Coop sell a reasonable Gewürztraminer, for me it is a marmite flavour, you either love it or hate it.


Riesling of course, however I prefered the ones I had tried from Germany, needless to say it is also sweet.

Pinot Gris is basically a white Pinot Noir and is called Pinot Grigio in Italy. The English often call it Tokay. It is also a sweet wine but no where near as sugary as the above two and therefore I prefer it.

Sylvaner is Liebfraumilch. Sort of a cheapy grape which is often thought of as bland. I actually quite liked it, which I guess says alot about my tastes.

I brought some 2008 Pinot Gris from Bruno Sorg, you can order it online from him and get it delivered in Switzerland. It was the least sweet Pinot Gris I could find.



Basically the idea is you go through the villages and try all the different wines from different producers. It's a lot of fun and you don't have to buy anything unless you want to.
The really interesting bit is seeing how different each grape can taste when produced by different people, the variety was quite surprising.

EDIT_ wow this thread grew quicker than I thought, I expected this to be post 2.

In case of the Alsace, if you like sweet wines, keep to the Whites. Red Alsace wine should be Pinot Noir based and not sweet. The variety in the Alsace is so rich because they adopted wines and methods in both mainland-Germany and mainland-France.

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If you want to drink the wine where you live, why limit it to Wallis or Waadt. In ZH, SZ and whole lot of other kantons you can get very nice wines.
ZH, SZ sounds quite normal, but I for a long time did not even know that the Canton of Congo sports its own wine, until detecting the "Leutschner" at Lachen Airfield http://flugi.com/index.php?id=9 It is really good and worth a try

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Follow the "Route du Vin" and you end up in beautiful places where you can taste the wine in the cellars of the makers. You can also take Colmar as a base and do short trips.

And don’t forget the local food.......

Fortunately, the Alsace is slowly getting rid of the dreadful "over-sweetness" where a pinot gris would taste like a gewürztraminer and the latter one like a late harvest desert wine. Needless to say, I like a crispy fruity Riesling.

I have been again and again in the Alsace since the early 70ies, and the emphasis of the Alsace wines has for all this time been on "serious" wines. The sweet stuff just was for certain Germans, Beneluxers and Brits who had a severe unhealthy love for the syrups and were important guests in the Alsace !

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