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Old 16.01.2006, 21:57
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Re: Short term work permit

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I spoke to our HR co-ordinator and they assured the company has some corporate housing (albeit slightly expensive for 4 months) if I can't find a place, so i think housing is the least of my worries now.
This is excellent news. This means probably your most stressful issue is solved - congratulations!

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I still can't believe they dont let you own a car on an L permit!! Very weird. But most laws have a loophole, and it seems this one is no exception
Ummm, loophole? We aren't talking about laws which supposedly stop US soldiers from torturing prisoners here - we are talking about Swiss laws, there usually are no loopholes.

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Last week at work, we were discussing some stuff about my upcoming european vacation (err.. work reloc). So, as part of the discussion I brought up the idiocy of not able to own a car, but apparently the way to get around this is to buy a car in Germany as a tourist. Since I'm on a tourist visa for the rest of schengen, its apparently legal. I was actually planning on selling my current M3 and buying the new 911. It turns out Porsche has a european deliver and its basically designed for you to come to europe, stay for like 2-4 weeks and drive your car around. Then they ship it to US as a "used car", so you actually save a few grands off the total price in taxes! wicked! They even pay for the insurance, license plates to go around europe and complimentary tours of famous places I heard I can pay extra to extend the services if i want more than those 2-4 weeks, so i will have to plan that out.
Yes, I should have mentioned that, though it isn't usually the first piece of advice that springs to mind for prospective visitors, for obvious reasons. :-)

That said, it is the only way I know of apart from renting or borrowing someone else's car that you'll have a car while you are here. I subletted my apartment to an American guy (well, a Texan) last year, and this is exactly what he did. Basically you have to haul yourself to Germany and go collect it. You'll then be driving it around as a tourist in Switzerland, which you can do for up to 1 year. By the way, registering a car in Germany is also no simple matter, but if they handle it all for you...

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I highly recommend this option to any US resident travelling for business/pleasure to Europe. Just order your car about 8-10 weeks prior to delivery date in a US dealership.
European cars seem to be highly valued by people in the US, possibly because American cars are such rubbish (but then again, you guys can buy good Japanese cars quite cheaply too!), so this does seem to be a popular thing to do. I have a BMW 728i (2000 model) and I think it is the biggest pile of junk - the sooner I can sell it off the better! The M5 is also, well... I won't spoil for you :-)

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Another thing is, I find it totally awkward that there is such discrimination in rights for foreigners based on their permits.
Yeah I find it a little bit strange too, but after a while you get sick of talking about it.

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May I ask why you guys still choose to work/live in the hell you describe? I mean, if it really is as bad as described, i don't feel its worth it.
Well some of us (me) didn't know what we were getting into, but we've been through the worst of it now, so we just sit around bitching about it on forums like this :-) Richard and I are both EU citizens, are white and hold C Permits. At the risk of bragging we live in good areas and have comfortable lives. But that doesn't mean I still get outraged by the fact that you are going to be stopped every single time at the border because you have dark skin (and because you'll be driving a fancy car - you must be a drug dealer in that case).

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It doesn't sound like a very immigrant-friendly environment.
I'd really love for someone to tell me that it is immigrant friendly. I was also naturalised in a country that sees immigration as vital to its future, so I think I can say that I agree with your comments. In fact, immigration is a word I hardy hear. We often see graphs of "einburgern" (to become a citizen) but this is usually in a context of it being a bad thing, and too many foreigners are getting their hands on passports. In fact, a recent campaign by the right wing SVP showed a poster to discourage Swiss voters for voting for Schengen - it showed a cartoon of various hands reaching for a swiss passport and the caption "Schengen - Nein". All but 1 of the hands was black or dark. That should speak volumes.

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I should however admit, I have spent 2 weeks in Zurich area last year with some of my ETHZ friends. I got invited to dinner at one of their parents' and ofcourse I haven't found the slightest ill-feeling in their hospitality. The 2 weeks were just a blast. They were quite friendly folks, afaik. May be its quite different in the corporate environment.. I shall soon findout.. I'm thinking of keeping an open air ticket back to US.. just in case I feel like I had enough. Good thing no one is doing me a favor by letting me work in Swiss.
Now I feel bad - I hope we aren't giving you the impression that you are going to be hunted down by the KKK - far from it. Naturally you'll meet many people who will treat you like an equal. It's just that every time you deal with officials, you won't feel that way. If you make the mistake of reading the racist hate materials that arrives in your letterbox from some of the political parties you'll also feel terrible. But don't let this cause you to have preconceived ideas about racist attitudes in Switzerland. The fact is that you'll only be here for 4 months, and you aren't trying to make this your home. This will affect the way you think about it. If you wanted to live the rest of your life here then you would probably be a little disappointed that you'll never be accepted. On the other hand if you become an American, you'll be an American, everybody will accept you as an American (as long as you support the troops!) and everyone will be happy. Just as every American isn't a gun -toting Bush supporter, not every Swiss has a problem with foreigners.

Mark
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