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I need tips on setting up an online shop business. I am currently working on CS-cart tool to build the website. However I need an inventory and invoice management software please suggest me some which is more relevant to switzerland.
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Re: Webshop

Hello Adrian,
I hope the below info could be useful.
It depends a bit on what you want to create.

If a full-fledged e-commerce website;
Go for either Shopify or Magento. Shopify will be easier to set up, but Magento will give you more flexibility (but takes much more time to learn).
--> This one seems to be most applicable to you (Magento has an order system and inventory system. Don't know how extensive Shopify is).

If it is just a website with a few pages
go for Wordpress. You can open a hosting account at Hostgator: for less than 100USD a year and have the one-click Wordpress or Magento, Zencart, etc install. (Saves you lots of headaches)

You also need to register your domain name. You can do this also at Hostgator (but not for .ch domains). For a .ch you can use namecheap.com.
--> And this domain name needs the DNS directed towards the server where you host the website.

There are lots of tutorials on Youtube and fora of how to use Wordpress. You would be able to set up a simple Wordpress site using these tutorials. If you want a more professional site, you probably want help from a designer and use a custom template (I use Elegantthemes.com).

I myself have set up several wordpress pages and just finished a Magento ecommerce shop. But I am using freelancers via freelancer.com, since I am not a developer.

I found very good freelancers there. But you do need to know very clearly what you want in order to project manage your 'team/freelancers'. Generally you would be able to set up a simple WordPress page in 1 week with a little help. For A magento it could take a few months, really depending on your needs and how clear you have your expectations in mind + how good are your freelancers.

Write down yourself first what your needs are and then decide on the platform. This is essential.

Or just contact me via a PM. Maybe I can help.
Good luck. Starting a business or setting up a site is always very exciting

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Re: Webshop

I agree with Ramon, your best option would be to go for pre-made software.

I am myself a developer, but if I would have to setup an online shop, I would go first for Shopify . After 6 months, you will have a better idea of what things are the things that you want for your site and that are missing. Then, is when you can invest a little bit more of time and money in going for something more custom (Magento, Wordpress, etc ...)

Personally, I would say that Shopify has done a great job and everything you can think now in terms of managing of the shop, will be there (they have thousands of clients, so most probably they have covered quite a lot of your needs).

Seen the success of Shopify, I can imagine there will a few other solutions like shopify before going the route of getting your own site with a CMS.

In any case, I wont recommend you creating the site from scratch, it may be fun, but business-wise, it will more efficient (time and money) to use things that are already created for that purpose.

Feel free to PM if you have more specific questions.
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Hi There

I found this post quite interesting. I have also started a small e-shop but I got it done through a web designer and she did it for me on Wix. It is also quite simple to handle but I think Shopify looks very good too.

I have made two blogs for me years now and I can sort of take care of my little website too. While making the website my designer also modified my blogs with Dropdown pages and stuff which were not available on the blog.

I want to make a website for my husband, he works for the Corporate, so I was thinking which should be good for his sort of work. I was again thiking Wix as I found Wordpress not so easy to work with. He writes very well but I want to do it as a surprise for him.

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Re: Webshop

Hi vip_in

I went through a similar exercise about 6 months ago when I was researching the various alternatives for setting up an online store. I considered three distinct options.

The first option was to pay someone else to set the shop up. This can cost a significant amount of money, ranging from a few thousand francs up to tens of thousands of francs. I found it very difficult to assess what you get for your money. This option didn't appeal to me as I was interested in learning to do this for myself.

The second option was to use a professional "off the shelf" solution which included the front end of the shop (i.e. what customers see) and also an integrated back end for managing orders, customers, stock, payment etc. There are some great platforms out there, like Shopify, BigCommerce and Volusion. All three of these are hugely capable and, depending upon your requirements, will give you a professional online shop with the back office support that you are looking for. Most of them also include hosted options which can further simplify things.

The third option is to use an open source platform such as Prestashop, Magneto, OpenCart and osCommerce. The advantage with these open source platforms is that they are cheaper (the software is free!) than the professional alternatives and they can be heavily customised. You can create an unique store than fits your requirements. The downside is that you do need at least some basic coding knowledge if you want to customise them. Many of the open source platforms include the back office functionality that you are looking for.

In practice the distinction between these three options blur. For example, many professional developers use the platforms I have listed above. Similarly, you can customise the professional "off the shelf" stores, with basic customisation easily done through drop down menus and more complex customisation sometimes possible through changes to the code. Which platform is most suitable for you will depend on a number of factors such as: how much do you want to spend, what features you want, how much customisation you want, whether you want to get into changing code, the type of products you are selling etc.

I am just finishing off an online store which will go live in the next week or so. Having spent a lot of time researching the various platforms I decided to go with Prestashop because I liked the flexibility of using an open source platform. Prestashop is also widely used and has great support in its forums. The experience has been good and I would recommend anyone else to use Prestashop if they are prepared to spend some time customising it and getting into at least a little bit of code. If you want an easier, off the shelf experience that I would take a good look at Shopify. BigCommerce is also worthy of consideration.

Good luck with whatever you decide to go with and let us know how the experience goes!
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Re: Webshop

I learned through trial and error to build my own websites both through software programs and from CSS. My advice is go for either Shopify or Wordpress. I love using Wordpress for myself or when i design for clients because of the vast add-ons and customization options available to you. Plus it's almost like "For Dummies" if you don't like coding. Magento is my least favorite simply because for the non-developers it is hard to maintain especially when you need to make custom changes. I once did a flash site for a client and she could never figure out how to change the daily deals, set up categories or the basics of running her site in Magento. Eventually she had to hire someone to manage her website even for basic things that would have been easy in another program like WordPress. Anyway, Good luck and ask if you have specific questions.
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Re: Webshop

A really simple plugin for a wordpress.org website is woocommerce. I've been using it and I have only just started building websites and found it really easy,

They also have lots of youtube tutorials which make the whole thing very nice!

you can link it to paypal, assign categories, track your inventories and so on.

In terms of invoicing, xero is a great software which you can also link to paypal.

If you have an extra questions, please feel free to PM me as I knew I would have loved some help setting mine up!
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Re: Webshop

Have an idea to create an online shop. Already have an experience, but abroad.
Have a broader question than creating the store, if the author of the topic allows. How do people who have the shops already promote? Are the shops international or suisse? Is it difficult to enter the local market? Is buying online popular in Switzerland? How do you organize delivery? Post or courriers?
Thanks a lot in advance for sharing your experience.

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Re: Webshop

Hi, we have recently set up an online shop selling baby and children's clothing

I'll have ago at answering your questions based on our experience:

Promotion
Social media - Facebook, Twitter etc
Local and national publications - Hello Switzerland, Basel Family Magazine, Basel Children's Trust etc
Forums - English Forum etc
Events - expat expo's etc

International or Swiss shops
Online shops in Switzerland are a mixture of national and international companies
It used to be mainly Swiss based companies, but foreign companies are increasingly establishing local websites and operations (e.g. Next and Zalando)
Swiss import regulations and fees can make it expensive for individuals to import from outside Switzerland, so there is a benefit for individuals to buy from local sites

Entering local market
I don't see it being much different to anywhere else in the world
Local knowledge and connections clearly help, but the key is to have a clear business proposition
Switzerland has four official languages (not including English) so that is one element you need to factor in that is unique to most other countries

Buying online
Buying online is less popular than in places like the US or the UK, but is on a similar growth trajectory curve, just less far along it
The younger generation are embracing online shopping, witness the number of people in the post finance holding Zalando packages!

Delivery
We use SwissPost, but there are a few other options like DFD. Like many things in Switzerland the pricing between the different companies is remarkably similar

Hope this helps! Happy to try to answer any other questions you may have.

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Hello Adrian,
I hope the below info could be useful.
It depends a bit on what you want to create.

If a full-fledged e-commerce website;
Go for either Shopify or Magento. Shopify will be easier to set up, but Magento will give you more flexibility (but takes much more time to learn).
--> This one seems to be most applicable to you (Magento has an order system and inventory system. Don't know how extensive Shopify is).

If it is just a website with a few pages
go for Wordpress. You can open a hosting account at Hostgator: for less than 100USD a year and have the one-click Wordpress or Magento, Zencart, etc install. (Saves you lots of headaches)

You also need to register your domain name. You can do this also at Hostgator (but not for .ch domains). For a .ch you can use namecheap.com.
--> And this domain name needs the DNS directed towards the server where you host the website.

There are lots of tutorials on Youtube and fora of how to use Wordpress. You would be able to set up a simple Wordpress site using these tutorials. If you want a more professional site, you probably want help from a designer and use a custom template (I use Elegantthemes.com).

I myself have set up several wordpress pages and just finished a Magento ecommerce shop. But I am using freelancers via freelancer.com, since I am not a developer.

I found very good freelancers there. But you do need to know very clearly what you want in order to project manage your 'team/freelancers'. Generally you would be able to set up a simple WordPress page in 1 week with a little help. For A magento it could take a few months, really depending on your needs and how clear you have your expectations in mind + how good are your freelancers.

Write down yourself first what your needs are and then decide on the platform. This is essential.

Or just contact me via a PM. Maybe I can help.
Good luck. Starting a business or setting up a site is always very exciting

Ramon
Hi Ramon,

thanks there is a lot of good advice in your post. I've heard about the open source ecommerce platform Magento (http://magento.com/) before, but I'm thinking that it might turn out to be too complex for me. Is there a program that you could recommend to someone like me, who's quite a novice in creating an ecommerce website? So far I've had a look at this option, which seems to be an easy and not too pricy option of creating an own website. My webshop will only start out with five or six different products, so a simple solution is enough. Yet, I also want to be able to expand the shop in future, if the project goes well.

Maybe you can give me some advice and also feel free to write me a PM if you like

Best regards,
Lizzie
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So far I've had a look at this option, which seems to be an easy and not too pricy option of creating an own website. My webshop will only start out with five or six different products, so a simple solution is enough.

Best regards,
Lizzie

Lizzie,
Hello, Have you actually tried 1 and 1, and if so, did you find the software user friendly? Thank you!!!!
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What are the payment methods used ?... and what its costs???
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One other local marketing "tool" that I had not seen before is the use of Migros and Coop personal ads that you post in your local store. The idea is you send two of each (Migros/Coop) preprinted ads when you ship something to a CH person and they hopefully post them for you in their local store. The ads are in colour, local language and are "copies" of the ad papers that you get if you want to post something yourself in your local store.

We got these when we signed up one of the juniors for a ski camp. And yes, I did feel "obliged" to post them in our local stores.

Cost to you is just the colour printing and writing a request/thank you to the person so they post them.
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My son used Jimdo
www.jimdo.com to set up his site
He says it is great

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