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Open a small online business

Hi everyone. I'm new to this forum.


I am looking to open up an online store selling items on Ricardo and possibly Amazon.de. I will be buying all products from China.


My questions are: Do I have to register a business or sole trader?
I am also confused with the VAT and MwSt- Would I need to register any of that? How does it work with the Zoll?


Is it possible to sell items on Amazon.de? I live in Switzerland and have a B permit with the allowance to work. My husband is a Swiss citizen.


My idea is above, I just need to know how I can do it legally.


Thank you in advance.
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Re: Open a small online business

Take a look at these posts, they might help.

Opening online store to sell Protein products

Opening a small online store

http://www.justlanded.com/english/Sw...in-Switzerland
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Re: Import tax on internet purchases

Hello all,


Im looking to purchase items from China for a new online business Im planning to open. I haven't opened a business yet as Im still looking into it, but how does it work with the import tax on internet purchases? Is there a difference if its for private/person use or if its to resell?


Thanks
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Re: Open a small online business

Thanks for your help!
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Re: Import tax on internet purchases

For private import you are allowed to import up to 62fr (including postage) tax free.
Or up to 100fr (including postage) tax free if it's despaired as a gift.

But gifts have to be from private person to private person, if the find any signs that this from a company declared as a gift, they will contact you and you would have to proof to them that is is a gift (maybe email or letters, I don't know I never was is such a situation). But I assume they would ask you for proof of purchase to determine the value of the goods (since they think it has been wrongly declared as a gift, hence the value is false.

To bypass the taxes, I suggest you to ask the sender to use a name instead of the company name if it's sent as a gift. And also very important is to show the shipping cost, so customs makes correct calculations.

If you want to order from china, use China post (tracked) it's cheap and takes about 2 or 2 and half weeks. If you want express, always go with EMS. DHL will always check every single package, while the other shipping methods go through the standard posting process and may pass unchecked by the customs if you are a bit lucky.
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Re: Opening a small online store

How much must I earn before it is counted as a salary?
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How much must I earn before it is counted as a salary?
If you're doing this small I guess you'll be running it as an Einzelfirma. You don't get a salary. The profits on the business are what you personally will pay tax on.
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Hello all,


Im looking to purchase items from China for a new online business Im planning to open. I haven't opened a business yet as Im still looking into it, but how does it work with the import tax on internet purchases? Is there a difference if its for private/person use or if its to resell?


Thanks
Ignore the previous answer [from cyup93], he obviously didn't read the bold part of your question. Contact the Swiss Customs and tell them what you want to import and how and they will tell you how much duty and MwsT you will pay.

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Hello all,


Im looking to purchase items from China for a new online business Im planning to open. I haven't opened a business yet as Im still looking into it, but how does it work with the import tax on internet purchases? Is there a difference if its for private/person use or if its to resell?


Thanks
Huge difference, there is no such thing as tax free border for business. All purchases have to have properly imported. Can cost you a fortune if they catch you importing stuff for business without properly paying taxes for it. If they do they will simply extrapolate from what they know and have you pay taxes for all those good (its your turn then to prove you have paid import tax on them). I know small businesses that had to pay 20-30k in taxes for the last few years.
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Re: Import tax on internet purchases

Just had goods (ordered on line) delivered from Germany with a Gross value of 282.28 Euros.

0.00% German MwSt.
30.35 Swiss Import and MWST/TVA/IVA duties.

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Re: Open a small online business

Some threads with info that may be helpful for you:

Starting a business in Switzerland.

Einzelfirma & Gmbh details in Zurich? [starting a business]

Starting a business with Permit B
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If you're doing this small I guess you'll be running it as an Einzelfirma. You don't get a salary. The profits on the business are what you personally will pay tax on.
So an Einzelfirma would be the easiest way for me to have a business, right?
Would I still be able to do tax deductions?

I want to do a trial to see if the items with sell online before I open up some kind of business. Is that possible?- To get the delivery in under my personal name and try to sell first?

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So an Einzelfirma would be the easiest way for me to have a business, right?
Would I still be able to do tax deductions?
Judging by what you have said, yes, I would say so, at least to start with. But read the other threads on starting a business, all of your questions will be answered there.
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Re: Opening a small online store

I am planning to sell umbrellas with my own design on line and also to participate in different markets (flee markets, christmas markets,etc.). Where do i find the list of all the markets around Lausanne? How do I register there? Is it difficult to find a place there? Is it possible to participate if my French is very limited? Thanks for any advice.
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Re: Open a small online business

Hi, I've just opened an online business recently and I can share the information that I came across in the process.

A sole trader (Einzelfirma) will do, no need for a Gmbh (ltd.) or anything else.
In general, you don't have to register as a VAT payer up to a certain turnover threshold (although you can request to register), but you will need to register as a VAT payer if you're importing goods.

In order to keep the VAT calculation and payment as simple as possible, you can chose to register for Saldosteuersatz, but that means you won't be able to deduct the import VAT, you'll just pay a small % on your turnover. But it's worth looking into this.

VAT is either 8% (standard rate) or 2.5% (reduced rate) - that's valid for both import VAT or sales VAT.

The Zoll is relatively straightforward - you pay three things on general: 1) import VAT at whatever applicable rate per article 2) import tax applicable for each article and country of origin 3) the custom clearance service - your courier will charge you for that. As long as the stuff from China comes with supplier invoices that show clearly what sort of products you're importing and you have a VAT number, it's not a big complication.
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