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Old 12.08.2009, 19:59
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Maybe I've deleted a thread about GmbH owner's liabilities too quickly, because I've found partially contradicting information.

First, the Swiss SMB portal (national languages) mentions at least the possibility to increase the holder's liabilities by designing the bylaws accordingly:



So are GmbH bylaws usually crafted to avoid this?

Second, this website (German, chapter 2 and 3) mentions a liability difference to incorporations with consequences for the GmbH if specific holders can't pay unrelated debts - the other way around, so to speak:




I'm not sure how relevant these points are but wonder if there are other "bootnotes" worth mentioning?
The Articles of Association (Statutten in German) can impose additional duties, obligations, restrictions and liabilities on one or more named founders. By default there are no such obligations.

I did not find the German Chapters 2 and 3 that you mentioned.
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Old 12.08.2009, 20:08
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Apologies, I forgot to ad the second source:

http://www.eikag.ch/eikag/fachartg.htm

I refer to the second and third "chapters" there.
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Apologies, I forgot to ad the second source:

http://www.eikag.ch/eikag/fachartg.htm

I refer to the second and third "chapters" there.
Nathu, Thanks for raising this important topic and the links.

The "facts" in the cited link are completely outdated (1997 !). Subsequently, the OR has been amended and a major revision of company law became effective 1st January 2008. The pertinent § in the SchKG is accordingly amended, too.

The LLC part-owners' insolvency liability is no longer listed in SchKG § 39. Those who like reading legal texts can study this:
http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/281_1/a39.html

Personally, I favor LLC and was involved with founding several. I also had to liquidate one.
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Re: Setting up GmbH

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Maybe I've deleted a thread about GmbH owner's liabilities too quickly, because I've found partially contradicting information.

First, the Swiss SMB portal (national languages) mentions at least the possibility to increase the holder's liabilities by designing the bylaws accordingly:



So are GmbH bylaws usually crafted to avoid this?

Second, this website (German, chapter 2 and 3) mentions a liability difference to incorporations with consequences for the GmbH if specific holders can't pay unrelated debts - the other way around, so to speak:




I'm not sure how relevant these points are but wonder if there are other "bootnotes" worth mentioning?
Apropos "bootnotes": There are plenty of traps to look out for! Whether "sole trader" or LLC, prospective entrepreneurs should seek specialist professional advice.

New entrepreneurs should also get an experinced entrepreneur to guide them. The specialists are like doctors: you go to them after the accident. But you need a guide to avoid the accident.
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Re: Setting up GmbH

2. Can I be set up as a sole-trader as it is only going to be myself and charge my US employer on a monthly basis, pay employer as well as employee contributions.


Thanks very much in advance![/QUOTE]

No, this is considered evading proper employee/employer relationship. You might could get away with it for a while, but they will charge you and the employer afterwards back for the period you worked for them.

It's a bit easier with a GmbH, but its quite obvious that you not a real company. Its one of the problems we facing in this country as cheap labor from Eastern Countries make this "one man companies" to avoid social payments and expenses. I would not recommend to go this bogous way.

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