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View Poll Results: Have you got a business are interested in how to do things here or save (avoid) tax?
Would like to have a business but boy don't know where to start 151 39.22%
Am a contractor but my pimps are asking me to bend over and hold my ankles every month 25 6.49%
I am a freelancer doing it myself (so to speak) and want to know more 103 26.75%
I have my own legally structured company and don't like paying so much to everybody 50 12.99%
I am employed but am always interested in any way to reduce tax 49 12.73%
I think this is a waste of breath you oxygen thief 7 1.82%
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Re: Help for Businesses/Freelancers in CH

Hi All,

thank you for great info in this thread here.

I have a specific question. I have been offered employed by a company in Austria which has no presence in Switzerland. How can they hire me on swiss contract and pay all the social cost and unemployment insurance, pension etc?

I have a C permit and a EU citizen

Assuming I don't want an einzelfirma or GmbH

any pointers would be appreciated

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Are you sure the contract would be governed by swiss law? How so? At least for purchase contracts, in most cases companies stipulate for their location to be the governing one, and thereby define applicable law.
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Hi all, I've taken the plunge and offered my services to a couple of companies as a part-time freelance technical writer/translator. This would be in addition to, and separate from, my current full-time employement. One agency has asked for my confirmation as a freelancer. Are they asking for confirmation as an Einzelfirma, or would that be something different? To be honest, the Fribourg website of the caisse de compensation (Ausgleichskasse) is a bit of a blackhole and some links no longer exist, or go round in circles. Must I get a notary involved to register an Einzelfirma? Does anyone know how long approximately it takes for approval? Thanks for your help.
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Hi all, I've taken the plunge and offered my services to a couple of companies as a part-time freelance technical writer/translator. This would be in addition to, and separate from, my current full-time employement. One agency has asked for my confirmation as a freelancer. Are they asking for confirmation as an Einzelfirma, or would that be something different? To be honest, the Fribourg website of the caisse de compensation (Ausgleichskasse) is a bit of a blackhole and some links no longer exist, or go round in circles. Must I get a notary involved to register an Einzelfirma? Does anyone know how long approximately it takes for approval? Thanks for your help.
Have you set up an individual business for your translation business?
If you're charging for your services (which I imagine you are!) on a freelance basis, you will need the AVS/AHV to make this official.
The problem for any potential employers/clients is that, if you don't have official freelance/"independent" status then they will have to pay AVS/AHV on what you charge.
So your potential client is no doubt asking for proof that you have the official independent/freelance status.

Not sure if you'll need a notary or not. I do know it can take a while. The best thing would be to talk to them.
Their phone number is on the website : http://www.caisseavsfr.ch/
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Have you set up an individual business for your translation business?
If you're charging for your services (which I imagine you are!) on a freelance basis, you will need the AVS/AHV to make this official.
The problem for any potential employers/clients is that, if you don't have official freelance/"independent" status then they will have to pay AVS/AHV on what you charge.
So your potential client is no doubt asking for proof that you have the official independent/freelance status.

Not sure if you'll need a notary or not. I do know it can take a while. The best thing would be to talk to them.
Their phone number is on the website : http://www.caisseavsfr.ch/
Thanks for the input. No, I haven't set up my business yet. I was a little confused as I did come across a form to do just that, but it was asking for a business plan, list of clients etc.; I don't have an of those yet. It seems a bit of a catch 22 situation whereby you have to provide proof of clientele before the business is accepted, yet as a new business, I don't have any clients yet. Or, do I only have to provide proof of clientele in order to register for AVS (once my earnings exceed a pre-set amount, that is)? It's a bit of a mystery.
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Re: Help for Businesses/Freelancers in CH

I found this form on the Fribourg caisse de compensation site, but to me this is to register for AVS for my busisness, not to register my business as a freelancer. Or is it the same thing in the end?
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Thanks for the input. No, I haven't set up my business yet. I was a little confused as I did come across a form to do just that, but it was asking for a business plan, list of clients etc.; I don't have an of those yet. It seems a bit of a catch 22 situation whereby you have to provide proof of clientele before the business is accepted, yet as a new business, I don't have any clients yet. Or, do I only have to provide proof of clientele in order to register for AVS (once my earnings exceed a pre-set amount, that is)? It's a bit of a mystery.
Yup, that's about it.
It can feel a bit catch-22ish but it has to be done.
It sounds like you already have a couple of clients lined up so that should work for the AVS. I think the fact that you already have a paid job elsewhere should mean it goes through a bit quicker.
They seem to generally be concerned with people wanting to go freelance and then not being able to support themselves.
There have different requirements depending on the type of job you wish to do as a freelance/independent.
For myself, it was easier to set up an SÓrl than become independent but it really depends on the area you're working in.
I would give them a quick call and ask. Perhaps set up an appointment to go in and chat with them about it.
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I found this form on the Fribourg caisse de compensation site, but to me this is to register for AVS for my busisness, not to register my business as a freelancer. Or is it the same thing in the end?
My experience with the Fribourg caisse de compensation is very positive. Just give them a call and explain. They speak German and French and most do english as well. Also they will call you if something is not clear on the form etc. very friendly people. They want you to start your business.

As said in another response you wil have to register for the AVS and fill in that form. If you want a fast reaction, give them a call after a few days.
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Yup, that's about it.
It can feel a bit catch-22ish but it has to be done.
It sounds like you already have a couple of clients lined up so that should work for the AVS. I think the fact that you already have a paid job elsewhere should mean it goes through a bit quicker.
They seem to generally be concerned with people wanting to go freelance and then not being able to support themselves.
There have different requirements depending on the type of job you wish to do as a freelance/independent.
For myself, it was easier to set up an SÓrl than become independent but it really depends on the area you're working in.
I would give them a quick call and ask. Perhaps set up an appointment to go in and chat with them about it.
"They seem to generally be concerned with people wanting to go freelance and then not being able to support themselves." No, on the one side they are concerned about people setting up as freelance and then using that status to claim all sorts of things against tax and so pay much less tax than a regular employee.
On the other side they are worried about freelancers being exploited; no proper health or accident insurance, no paid holidays or sickness time, no notice period, no limitation on hours worked.
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Re: Help for Businesses/Freelancers in CH

Hello All
I am new to the forum, first of all THANK YOU ALL for being so generous and solve our doubts.

I explain you my situation and my questions:

- I hold a B permit and work for a Swiss company
- I rent an apartment in Thurgau canton and live there during the week
- I am Tax resident in Belgium since my wife and kids live there, I go back to Belgium every weekend. I own a house there.
- My Swiss employer currently "takes" taxes on origin from my payroll, then I fill a tax return in Belgium with a 0 effect (no double tax agreement).
- I have sent a letter to Swiss tax authorities to explain this and I do not need to fill up a tax return in CH.

I now want to quit my job and become independent or set up my own company in Switzerland. I do not know what be better from tax point of view considering the situation bellow:

- I will work for at least 2 companies abroad (both based on the same EU country) mainly 100% of the time.
- I will earn (invoice) around 200.000 CHF a year in total.
- I can move my wife and kids here (my wife does not work at the moment). I am considering to leave Belgium and sell the property there.
- My swiss employer (and myself), has contributed to a pension plan for at least 2 years. I think I can take that money if I establish myself as independent.

Thanks so much for your advice!!!
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