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Old 21.10.2009, 19:57
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You teach Wing Chun and you don't promote the spiritual element? Is that Wing Chun
hang on we were discussing styles that teach 'internal reflection' and that for me is always personal so how to teach it?, however... I do teach, first discovery and then use of: 'elbow energy'..... that's pretty
trippy I don't know about spiritual.
oh and the first section of first form should be done slowly incorporating deep breathing and when questioned whether it could be compared to meditation Yip Chun replied 'yes it's exactly the same only with movement aswell'... so to suggest I don't promote a spiritual element is a little unfair I just don't get all foo man chu on the subject if you get me ...
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Re: english speaking wing chun tuition

Oh, no offence, I'm glad to hear there are English speaking Wing Chun teachers here

At the risk of going Off Topic, my attitude towards martial arts are they're self defence classes if they don't promote internal reflection, study and an appeal to the spiritual / philosophical. Which is, of course, just an opinion.

It's very difficult to find a Sensei who can deliver all elements of education without resorting to a monastery and shaving one's head. Confucious alone gives one X-Ray specs. The 'Do', so to say.

I believe there's the market for studying philosophy within the arts but it's not being catered to in this part of the World. Again, it's just an opinion, but the training ought to be as rigorously demanding for the soul as well as the body.

Anyway, sorry to derail your thread somewhat. All the best, I hope there's lots of interest.
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Old 21.10.2009, 20:13
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Sometimes the best way to learn is by doing, but I would not want to train under the guidance of any Sifu or master who had not taken the inner path to self discovery. I liken those who haven't to killers for hire. My Sifu and my master taught me that the first line of self-defenxse is the brain- don't get your self into situations of physical confrontation.

As here it is a last resort:
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Old 21.10.2009, 20:35
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Oh, no offence, I'm glad to hear there are English speaking Wing Chun teachers here

At the risk of going Off Topic, my attitude towards martial arts are they're self defence classes if they don't promote internal reflection, study and an appeal to the spiritual / philosophical. Which is, of course, just an opinion.

It's very difficult to find a Sensei who can deliver all elements of education without resorting to a monestary and shaving one's head. Confucious alone gives one X-Ray specs. The 'Do', so to say.

I believe there's the market for studying philosophy within the arts but it's not being catered to in this part of the World. Again, it's just an opinion, but the training ought to be as rigorously demanding for the soul as well as the body.

Anyway, sorry to derail your thread somewhat. All the best, I hope there's lots of interest.
There is also the legal aspect to think of. Where I was trained those who could not be disciplined had their contract terminated. In TKD you register your Black Belt in Korea. In the Korean legal system if you are a black belt and you do anything more than can be construed as trying to stop an attack then you could be charged with murder. In the US it is not as strict but good schools do not want a bad reputation. We had a whole curriculum for mind body and soul. The core staff had breathing and meditation classes. My Sifu was even stricter than my TKD master. The best people to spar with are masters, because their accuracy and control is so thrilling.
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It's very difficult to find a Sensei who can deliver all elements of education without resorting to a monestary and shaving one's head.
If you want a "Sensei", then you unfortunately need to be looking at Japanese martial arts... and not Chinese. Two very, very different things. Maybe one day you will find your Mr. Mayoge...

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If you want a "Sensei", then you unfortunately need to be looking at Japanese martial arts... and not Chinese. Two very, very different things. Maybe one day you will find your Mr. Mayoge...

Wax on, wax off...
Does Mr Mayoge know Mr Miyagi Just wondered
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Old 22.10.2009, 20:18
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Oh, no offence, I'm glad to hear there are English speaking Wing Chun teachers here

At the risk of going Off Topic, my attitude towards martial arts are they're self defence classes if they don't promote internal reflection, study and an appeal to the spiritual / philosophical. Which is, of course, just an opinion.

It's very difficult to find a Sensei who can deliver all elements of education without resorting to a monastery and shaving one's head. Confucious alone gives one X-Ray specs. The 'Do', so to say.

I believe there's the market for studying philosophy within the arts but it's not being catered to in this part of the World. Again, it's just an opinion, but the training ought to be as rigorously demanding for the soul as well as the body.

Anyway, sorry to derail your thread somewhat. All the best, I hope there's lots of interest.
Hey not at all thanks for your comments I think we got caught up in nomenclature issues
I like to allow self development but I also try to equate the teachings to real 'street' situations aswell. 'street psycology' also off topic but sometimes what you learn seems so abstract I like to give 'real life' reference points and tips...
again thanks for your comments
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You teach Wing Chun and you don't promote the spiritual element? Is that Wing Chun
Wing chun never had a spiritual side, the whole point if it is that it was quick and dirty, there's nothing spiritual to chain punching.. You take the inside line and batter your opponent.. That's why it took off in hong kong, it didn't take 20 years to learn, only had 3 forms and was simple and efficient. the yip man film is compete fantasy, it never happened.
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You teach Wing Chun and you don't promote the spiritual element? Is that Wing Chun
Wing chun never had a spiritual side, the whole point if it is that it was quick and dirty, there's nothing spiritual to chain punching.. You take the inside line and batter your opponent.. That's why it took off in hong kong, it didn't take 20 years to learn, only had 3 forms and was simple and efficient. the yip man film is compete fantasy, it never happened.
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Sorry posted twice.. Bloody iPad
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Wing chun never had a spiritual side, the whole point if it is that it was quick and dirty, there's nothing spiritual to chain punching.. You take the inside line and batter your opponent.. That's why it took off in hong kong, it didn't take 20 years to learn, only had 3 forms and was simple and efficient. the yip man film is compete fantasy, it never happened.
The thread is 3 years old... I think the conversation died while ago.
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Re: english speaking wing chun tuition

My social life sucks so I live in the past. But thanks
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Change of location/class times

So classes now run every
Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays 1930 - 2100hr in BADEN.
private tuition available, take advantage of the only opportunity in Switzerland to learn this traditional style. Opportunities exist to visit Hong Kong to train and to attend special weekend courses in UK.
NEXT BEGINNERS COURSE 1ST JULY.... Class size strictly limited so personal attention is guaranteed.
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Wing chun never had a spiritual side, the whole point if it is that it was quick and dirty, there's nothing spiritual to chain punching.. You take the inside line and batter your opponent.. That's why it took off in hong kong, it didn't take 20 years to learn, only had 3 forms and was simple and efficient. the yip man film is compete fantasy, it never happened.
Wing Chun does have a spiritual side. You have no idea why we chain punch obviously. We control centre we don't batter down it.. You have no idea of the real history of Wing Chun in Hong Kong. There are 6 forms. The Yip Man film was a FILM, although Donnie Yen trained with my Sigung for 6 months prior to that learning the whole system until knives, actually met him and the director at class....
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Wing Chun does have a spiritual side. You have no idea why we chain punch obviously. We control centre we don't batter down it.. You have no idea of the real history of Wing Chun in Hong Kong. There are 6 forms. The Yip Man film was a FILM, although Donnie Yen trained with my Sigung for 6 months prior to that learning the whole system until knives, actually met him and the director at class....
By "batter" he just means to hit repeatedly, it's a loose term. Whether it's actually effective or not is another question.
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So classes now run every
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NEXT BEGINNERS COURSE 1ST JULY....
Where can I actually sign up for that? Can you give me a few more details, like prices, how often the beginners' course sessions are, and so on? Thanks.
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Where can I actually sign up for that? Can you give me a few more details, like prices, how often the beginners' course sessions are, and so on? Thanks.
Hello, the beginners course is 6 lessons in duration and costs 100CHF which is payable lesson 2, effectively making lesson 1 for free should you not choose to return.
Should you be invited to join the main class the fees are CHF100- per month direct debit.
private lessons are available at CHF25- per hour
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Hello, the beginners course is 6 lessons in duration and costs 100CHF which is payable lesson 2, effectively making lesson 1 for free should you not choose to return.
Is that six lessons over six weeks?
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Is that six lessons over six weeks?
Hello its 6 lessons to be taken as soon as possible preferably within a month or so lessons are available Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays 1930-21hr...
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Re: english speaking wing chun tuition

here my Sifu - MASTER Colin Ward, explains why we chain punch....

hope that clears up any idea of battering (repeatedly striking) down centre.....
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