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09.05.2011, 14:33
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| | | Don't get locked out of your home again ! Why wait around simply because you forgot your keys? 
Have you ever been locked out of your own home? Do you worry about getting home before the kids get back from school ?
Our Outdoor Key Access Safes may be the solution.
Simple to program, simple to fit and simple to use, a KeySafe gives secure access to your home. Changing the access code is very easy and can be changed as often as you like, so you always stay in control of who is able to access your keys.
Please visit my website at http://www.sesame-ouvre-moi.ch for more info and to order.
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09.05.2011, 14:36
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| | | Re: Don't get locked out of your home again !
They don't look very strong. What type of insurance do you offer if someone breaks one of them open, takes the keys, and then goes into your house? Or maybe they are strong, but it doesn't come over in the photos.
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09.05.2011, 14:37
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09.05.2011, 14:38
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| | | Re: Don't get locked out of your home again !
do you do a safe where you can put your code if you forget it?
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09.05.2011, 14:44
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hi, these key safes which are used all over the world and, from my own experience, on houses in large towns in England. In fact they are required by a number of 'care' companies for visiting the elderly to allow their employees to enter houses without having to pass around keys. The safes are A LOT stronger than you might think (espeically hte Supra ones) and I would duggest that it would be easier to break down most front doors than break into one of these. As I said they are fitted to a lot of houses in England where they are becoming very common place.
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09.05.2011, 15:01
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| | | Re: Don't get locked out of your home again !
...and always check with your insurance provider to see if you are covered in case someone gets your key from one of these safes and robs you.
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09.05.2011, 18:46
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| | | Re: Don't get locked out of your home again ! | Quote: | |  | | | I have two linked questions.
1. How easy is it to change the combination? Is the combination reset each time you lock the safe (a bit like a hotel safe)?
2. How can you open the safe when your kids have changed the combination, but have no idea what it is? Is there an override key? | | | | | I think this might do the trick....
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09.05.2011, 19:35
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| | | Re: Don't get locked out of your home again !
where are you meant to fit it? my LL wouldn't be happy with me fitting this to the building.
i just leave a copy with friends/neighbours.
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09.05.2011, 21:27
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| | | Re: Don't get locked out of your home again ! | Quote: | |  | | | where are you meant to fit it? my LL wouldn't be happy with me fitting this to the building.
i just leave a copy with friends/neighbours. | | | | | I was also wondering where you would put one of these. Of course you could always leave on in the car. But I'm with you it's a good idea to leave a key with a friend. Or leave one in the office in case you lose your keys.
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10.05.2011, 01:25
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| | | Re: Don't get locked out of your home again !
What is the logic of having a combination safe hold your key that you can use to unlock your front door?
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10.05.2011, 06:47
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| | | Re: Don't get locked out of your home again !
I agree. I always have a key at a friends house. Just a phone call away and the key is stored safely
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10.05.2011, 09:36
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| | | Re: Don't get locked out of your home again ! | Quote: | |  | | | I have two linked questions.
1. How easy is it to change the combination? Is the combination reset each time you lock the safe (a bit like a hotel safe)?
2. How can you open the safe when your kids have changed the combination, but have no idea what it is? Is there an override key? | | | | | Hi, The combination can be reset in a few seconds once the safe is open. You can change the combination as often as you like or leave the same number for a while. There is no over ride key but changing the code is a very deliberate act and could not be done by a child by accident.
My nan has a key safe fitted in England (Supra S5) as she has a care company that comes to the house every morning to help get her ready for the day. The code for the box is changed once a month or so and care company informed. It a lot easier than the care company passing keys around (and losing them !).
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10.05.2011, 09:37
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| | | Re: Don't get locked out of your home again ! | Quote: | |  | | | What is the logic of having a combination safe hold your key that you can use to unlock your front door?
Why would I not just get a combination lock for the front door itself??  | | | | | Combination locks for the door itself are common in the US but not in europe. I have a keysafe attached to my fence in the garden, I am not sure if my landlord would like me changing his front door to fit a combination lock ...
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10.05.2011, 09:42
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| | | Re: Don't get locked out of your home again ! | Quote: | |  | | | where are you meant to fit it? my LL wouldn't be happy with me fitting this to the building.
i just leave a copy with friends/neighbours. | | | | | Most safes attach to a wall or, in my case, discretely on a fence post. Its a lot better than hiding it in the garden under a rock.
Leaving the key with a neighbour is a great idea unless :
1. They are on holiday when you need the key.
2. You get home very late and have to wake them.
3. Your kids lose their key twice a week (one of mine does).
4. They are out shopping, at the theatre, in a restaurant or whatever when you need them leaving you, or your kids, waiting outside.
A keysafe enables you to take control of the situation without having to rely on, or more importantly inconvenience, others.
Of course if they had a key safe on their house, and gave you the code, you would be able to get into their house when you need your own house key and get in that way. Alternatively you could get your own key safe :-)
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10.05.2011, 09:55
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| | | Re: Don't get locked out of your home again ! | Quote: | |  | | | ...and always check with your insurance provider to see if you are covered in case someone gets your key from one of these safes and robs you. | | | | | From my experience in the UK I think this is covered. I would be interested to also know for those of us who hide keys in the garden what the situation would be if someone found the key and got in that way ... At least with a key safe there is a barrier to entry.
I must try lifting a few flower pots next time I am out visiting, I am sure I will find something .... :-)
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10.05.2011, 09:57
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| | | Re: Don't get locked out of your home again ! | Quote: | |  | | | I think this might do the trick.... | | | | | If you always carried one of those with you you wouldn't need a key to any house ... Of course if you forgot to take it with you one day you would be back to square 1 | 
10.05.2011, 10:38
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| | | Re: Don't get locked out of your home again ! | Quote: | |  | | | If you always carried one of those with you you wouldn't need a key to any house ... Of course if you forgot to take it with you one day you would be back to square 1  | | | | | It's not the householder who would carry the hammer - but the burglar...
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10.05.2011, 10:47
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| | | Re: Don't get locked out of your home again ! | Quote: | |  | | | It's the householder who would carry the hammer - but the burglar...  | | | | | I find it quite amusing to focus on how you could try and get the key out of a key safe with a large hammer when, to my mind, a swift blow with the same hammer would undoubtedly open almost any door. The same could be said for crow bars etc..
If you are worried about the possibility of burglers turning up with a large hammer or similar heavy duty equipment I would suggest reinforcing your doors and windows with iron bars to combat this possibility.
Once you have done that, however, coming home without your key would be EVEN more of a problem at which point I would suggest the installation of a Supra S6 keysafe to ensure that you or your family could always gain access without having to wait around especially in the winter when its cold with snow on the ground ....
Keysafes are designed for this job and are widely used around Europe.
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10.05.2011, 11:10
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| | | Re: Don't get locked out of your home again ! | Quote: | |  | | |
....Once you have done that, however, coming home without your key would be EVEN more of a problem at which point I would suggest the installation of a Supra S6 keysafe to ensure that you or your family could always gain access without having to wait around especially in the winter when its cold with snow on the ground ....
Keysafes are designed for this job and are widely used around Europe. | | | | | You don't actually state that you have a commercial relationship with the OP who posted the advert but it would appear to be the case.
Is this so?
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10.05.2011, 11:12
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| | | Re: Don't get locked out of your home again ! | Quote: | |  | | | I find it quite amusing to focus on how you could try and get the key out of a key safe with a large hammer when, to my mind, a swift blow with the same hammer would undoubtedly open almost any door. The same could be said for crow bars etc.. 
If you are worried about the possibility of burglers turning up with a large hammer or similar heavy duty equipment I would suggest reinforcing your doors and windows with iron bars to combat this possibility.
Once you have done that, however, coming home without your key would be EVEN more of a problem at which point I would suggest the installation of a Supra S6 keysafe to ensure that you or your family could always gain access without having to wait around especially in the winter when its cold with snow on the ground ....
Keysafes are designed for this job and are widely used around Europe. | | | | | I also find it quite amusing that you can't see that getting a key from a small box mounted on a fence post (as per the website) is far easier and less likely to attract attention as using that same hammer to smash in the front door.
In my experience all professional burglars turn up with appropriate equipment for opening both front doors and outdoor access safes. They are also likely to be aware that these little boxes mounted about properties contain a quick, clean and quite way to break in...
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