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Offering Reiki treatments in the Kilchberg and Zurich area

Good afternoon on this beautiful Swiss Autumn day! Autumn is a 'sometimes' and in 'some places' occurrence in Australia

I am the founder of Reiki Zurich and I noticed that there are a number of people asking about treatments in and around the Zurich area, so I thought it would be a good idea to post here about my services. If you would like to find out more information my website is www.reikizurich.com. I have a praxis room in Kilchberg up on the hill near the lake in Zurich which is very accessible both by train (Kilchberg), bus (Schwelle) and of course by car (there are car parks out the front). I charge only 50 franks for a 50 minute consultation and am open to reduce this to what you can afford of course No questions asked just pay what you can afford at the end of the session. In this way I can hopefully make it affordable to all to receive the healing connection that the Reiki method creates.

If you would like to know more about Reiki please refer to my website where I also offer other services at the same cost, or ask me questions here. Just quickly, Reiki is a non religious healing method which creates a connection between the universal life force energy, the practitioner and the client. The healing flows to where it is needed. Usually physical ailments are linked to something deeper (mental, emotional, spiritual..) and Reiki most often works from the inside out; working to clear the source of the problem instead of the symptoms. At the end of a session the client is usually left with a feeling of wellbeing and peace that permeates their entire being. Please feel free to ask me questions here if you would like more clarification. PM me if you would like to organise an appointment. Or visit my website, where I have a contact form and details.

I look forward to meeting you and assisting you in directly experiencing the balancing and healing that is available to all.
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Re: Offering Reiki treatments in the Kilchberg and Zurich area

Gotta love Placebo Treatments, but it just shows the power of self-belief aids the healing process in a person. Shame they have to pay through the nose before they start to believe though.


Good article on it here http://www.quackwatch.com/01Quackery...ics/reiki.html
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Shame they have to pay through the nose before they start to believe though.
Thanks for your quick and witty reply but a little too quick if you read it you would see that the cost is based on how much you can afford
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Old 12.11.2015, 14:39
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Thanks for your quick and witty reply but a little too quick if you read it you would see that the cost is based on how much you can afford




I doubt your minimum fee is so low, considering I am presuming that you do run a business and not a charity.


Anyway my point was that Reiki has consistently failed clinical testing, does not stand up to scientific scrutiny, and whatever a person pays for the Placebo effect is too much. http://www.medicaldaily.com/doctors-...olistic-298920


Unsurprisingly, Reiki practitioners defend it for the cash cow that is is, and sadly it (although common sense dictates it should be about as factually accurate as Mars Attacks), like religion, can't be wholly disproved.
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I doubt your minimum fee is so low, considering I am presuming that you do run a business and not a charity..
Hi Richdog, thanks for your constructive comments. I don't know of any Reiki practitioners who do it for the money although I am sure there are some out there. I really just want to help people in the way I can with what I have been given.

As for testing of alternative therapies; they wouldn't be 'alternative' if they could produce the consistent results that the 'clinical testing' requires to be deemed mainstream. That has nothing to do with its worth. We are all so very individual in terms of our make up as an entire being and hence every client needs to be treated on an individual basis. Medical science does not accept this (person with symptom walks in, symptom found in book or memory, tablet prescription given, symptom masked..) Again this does not mean that both don't have their place in healing. If there was no mystery about why miracles happen, we wouldn't call them miracles anymore..that would be pretty boring.. Any way, all the best
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If there was no mystery about why miracles happen, we wouldn't call them miracles anymore..that would be pretty boring.. Any way, all the best

...and case closed. "Mystery and miracles", as used by charlatans to prey upon the forlorn hopes of the needy for centuries. Some things never change.
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Re: Offering Reiki treatments in the Kilchberg and Zurich area

It's sad that you feel that way but you are of course entitled to your opinion... I wish you all the best Richdog
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Re: Offering Reiki treatments in the Kilchberg and Zurich area

As Richdog said, the placebo effect is a key ingredient in all faith healing and snake oil methods. People who are very suggestible seem to benefit most from ‘treatments’ like reiki or hypnosis. What one should keep in mind though is that these treatments should never replace doctor’s visits, but rather be done complementary (if at all).

Personally, having tried all sorts of complementary and alternative therapies, I have yet to witness one that did any good. It’s great if it ‘works’ for others, just as long as people do not mix them up with scientifically proven, effective treatments.

Last time I had reiki done was a year ago, when an acquaintance who has been practicing reiki for a long time, offered to do a ‘treatment’. She said I was absolutely fit ('the energy is flowing freely') Wished I was but in fact I had a number of health issues going on.

I know quite a few people who, despite otherwise being rational and skeptical, regularly frequent faith healers, instead of medically trained professionals whenever they experienced a health issue. I wonder if it's the charismatic personalities of the healers that my friends feel attracted to, or the experience of having an hour just for themselves to be pampered and taken care of. Nothing wrong with that, as long as they don't stop seeing their doctor when experiencing health concerns.

My best friend and her husband are seeing a (self-proclaimed) reiki master every other week. This lady claims to have healed cancer, MS, diabetes.. you name it. Since I often write investigative articles for magazines, I offered this lady to write about her miraculous healings. She was interested at first but when I asked to interview one of the people she claimed to have healed, she declined. My friend unfortunately thinks the lady healed some issues she sustained after her C-section. I keep begging her to see a doctor, but unfortunately the reiki lady makes her feel confident enough to only rely on her ‘treatment.’ To me that is fraudulent behavior on the reiki lady's part, but my friend obviously is to be blamed for being so gullible and impressionable.

My dear aunt died of a cardiac issue (which turned out was congenital and would have been treatable). She was experiencing some problems but kept going to her Reiki master three times a week for many years instead of a doctor. He assured her she was absolutely healthy.

So, bottom line, everyone is free to explore alternative routes in their health journey, but they should be careful whom they trust with their health, especially when they are venturing to the area of non-regulated professions that have zero guidelines on training, pricing and code of ethics.

I could share more experiences but I think you get the point
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Re: Offering Reiki treatments in the Kilchberg and Zurich area

Hi Lorena, thank you for joining the discussion and offering your input. Of course Reiki, just like any other form of alternative medicine, should be approached as a compliment to mainstream medicine. Otherwise mainstream medicine wouldn't be 'mainstream' I'm sorry you had such experiences with Reiki and I hope that any future experiences with alternative therapies will be more beneficial..

I assure you that my training and background have prepared me to assist people in the way that I can, that my ethics are impeccable and that my pricing (affordability based!) is reasonable. I would always recommend Reiki as a complementary therapy to a medical treatment that someone is receiving. However; not every client that walks through my door has a physical ailment. There are many aspects to this field of work that are not restrained to the physical. An example would be stress and burn out. These are a major concern in Switzerland. Reiki is an amazing stress buster! Again thank you for your comments, I wish you well Lorena.
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Re: Offering Reiki treatments in the Kilchberg and Zurich area

"You know what they call alternative medicine that's been proved to work?


Medicine"


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My best friend and her husband are seeing a (self-proclaimed) reiki master every other week. This lady claims to have healed cancer, MS, diabetes.. you name it. Since I often write investigative articles for magazines, I offered this lady to write about her miraculous healings. She was interested at first but when I asked to interview one of the people she claimed to have healed, she declined. My friend unfortunately thinks the lady healed some issues she sustained after her C-section. I keep begging her to see a doctor, but unfortunately the reiki lady makes her feel confident enough to only rely on her ‘treatment.’ To me that is fraudulent behaviour on the reiki lady's part, but my friend obviously is to be blamed for being so gullible and impressionable.

My dear aunt died of a cardiac issue (which turned out was congenital and would have been treatable). She was experiencing some problems but kept going to her Reiki master three times a week for many years instead of a doctor. He assured her she was absolutely healthy.
Yes, those are the most dangerous. They have zero medical qualifications and yet because they insist they are healers they inevitably feel calculated/deluded enough to dish out medical advice. There are many records of people dying because of lack of seeking real medical treatment that could have cured or alleviated their illnesses for many years.

It's no wonder the woman didn't want to be investigated, all such spiritual and faith healers know full well that nothing they do would stand up to real scrutiny, it never has. Like you say, people go there with an almost superstitious mindset, and when they have that mindset their brain is already open to sensations and the possibility of all sorts of weird and wonderful things happening, so they think it does.

I would wager that if the OP's patients were subject to the same scrutiny it would be no different.

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However; not every client that walks through my door has a physical ailment. There are many aspects to this field of work that are not restrained to the physical. An example would be stress and burn out. These are a major concern in Switzerland. Reiki is an amazing stress buster! Again thank you for your comments, I wish you well Lorena.
There is another great alternative therapy that uses hands over the body and is actually medically proven to work for stress... massage.

As for treating stress and burn out, can you explain how exactly Reiki does that... or is that one of "nature's mysteries"? I can't see how it does anything to address root psychological causes of stress and or to address the actual issues faced in the workplace causing the stress. Do you give counselling at the same time?

No, you give a placebo hit, people walk out feeling temporarily satisfied, then all of the problems return shortly after. Then they come back for another hit. And so on.

Great article on the subject here https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org...epresentation/
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Re: Offering Reiki treatments in the Kilchberg and Zurich area

Geez Richdog, it was never my intention for my little advertisement to generate so much anger from you... It was the opposite in fact. I am offering a service to try to help people. Just as a massage therapist would offer a service to try to help people.

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Geez Richdog, it was never my intention for my little advertisement to generate so much anger from you... It was the opposite in fact. I am offering a service to try to help people. Just as a massage therapist would offer a service to try to help people.
Don't let him get to you, there are a few on here like that. Sometimes Ef seems more narrow minded than the country it resides in. I don't know Reiki but have had some pretty freaky out there alternative treatments in my time with good results, if your good you will do okay regardless of the science. It is not for everyone's taste but the same could be said of Ferraris, football, veganism, alcohol free beer ect, you're having a crack and trying to help people, good luck in your venture.
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Well said
I dont' think you understand the sentiment behind that statement .
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