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Did you not read anything I wrote. I said, and did nothing to the woman.

As I keep saying - it's a question of manners and not laws.

(rather like middle-aged men pushing kids out of the way in ski lift queues - no law is broken but I wouldn't call it good manners although people on this forum tell me it's the norm here).

You did not say anything ? and are astonished when she felt ignored ? And YOU SAY that she insisted on her rights ? So that you are a mind reader or a clairvoyant ?


I have been on many ski lifts at age 10 up to 38 and NONE of us was ever pushed out of the queues at any Skilift. This simply is rubbish
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Old 23.09.2015, 21:44
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I have been on many ski lifts at age 10 up to 38 and NONE of us was ever pushed out of the queues at any Skilift. This simply is rubbish
Maybe it's more common place now than it used to be.

TBH, when you probably went skiing, it was mainly the British who frequented the slopes so there wouldn't have been so much pushing as the British are experts in queuing and fair play.



Plus we would never do anything as vulgar as smoke at the dinner table. One used to retire to the drawing room to partake of some tobacco.
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Maybe it's more common place now than it used to be.
Yes, just ask Ambo Suzi LaVine all about Swiss ski-lifts
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Old 24.09.2015, 05:40
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Maybe it's more common place now than it used to be.

TBH, when you probably went skiing, it was mainly the British who frequented the slopes so there wouldn't have been so much pushing as the British are experts in queuing and fair play.



Plus we would never do anything as vulgar as smoke at the dinner table. One used to retire to the drawing room to partake of some tobacco.
Already in the 1960ies and 70ies and 80ies, it was the Germans who dominated and not the Brits. And when in London in those times, for example visiting the Sherlock Holmes Pub & Museum at Trafalgar, you had to speed up as the Brits smoked like chimneys

I suppose that private homes of Brits in 1972 still looked like THIS
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as pubs and restaurants still DID look as that

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Old 24.09.2015, 05:58
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Yes, just ask Ambo Suzi LaVine all about Swiss ski-lifts
I would rather ask her winetrader-husband about wines
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You did not say anything ? and are astonished when she felt ignored ? And YOU SAY that she insisted on her rights ? So that you are a mind reader or a clairvoyant ?


I have been on many ski lifts at age 10 up to 38 and NONE of us was ever pushed out of the queues at any Skilift. This simply is rubbish
BS. I hardy ever take the lift being a snow shoe walker. But have seen many swissies jumping the que.

The whole coutry is full of que jumpers. Hell, I have even seen swissies jumping the que at passport control. What realy is your point and where do you want this discussion to go?

Round in circles? Just for the fun of it? I think so.


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Re: Smoking on the train platforms.uughh

Now, back to smoking. I mean posts about smoking, not smoking.
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Old 24.09.2015, 10:05
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The whole coutry is full of que jumpers. Hell, I have even seen swissies jumping the que at passport control. What realy is your point and where do you want this discussion to go?
I think one of the problems with human nature is that the way a local sees their country can be very different to the way an outsider sees it. Call it 'rose-tinted spectacles' if you wish.

Of course, the Swiss feel proud of their country and go on the defense if anyone so much as criticizes any aspect of it.
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BS. I hardy ever take the lift being a snow shoe walker. But have seen many swissies jumping the que.

The whole coutry is full of que jumpers. Hell, I have even seen swissies jumping the que at passport control. What realy is your point and where do you want this discussion to go?

Round in circles? Just for the fun of it? I think so.


I do NOT want to have a point. Obvious however is that the woman mentioned is an attention whore who turned nasty when feeling ignored


And queuing ? To my experience only the Brits and the Portuguese really adhere to Queues while the rest of the continent exercises queue jumping
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I think one of the problems with human nature is that the way a local sees their country can be very different to the way an outsider sees it. Call it 'rose-tinted spectacles' if you wish.

Of course, the Swiss feel proud of their country and go on the defense if anyone so much as criticizes any aspect of it.

And the Americans' don't ?
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Old 24.09.2015, 10:48
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To my experience only the Brits and the Portuguese really adhere to Queues while the rest of the continent exercises queue jumping
And even Brits can do a bit of furtive queue jumping on occasion. Ski lift queue in Switzerland (cannot remember where). Two young guys sneakily make their way forward weaving in and out overtaking folk until they reach me. I put my skis so that they couldn't get by and said in Swiss German that they should wait their turn. All innocence, they looked puzzled and one said that he didn't understand. He only spoke English. 'In which case I'll repeat it in English. Don't push and don't jump the queue'. Two very surprised and rather embarrassed guys.
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Re: Smoking on the train platforms.uughh

I call on you all to leave Wollishofener alone now, there is no point in getting his back up as nothing anytime soon is going to change in Switzerland regarding smoking.

People do feel their liberty is being attacked here when you criticize their smoking habits.

For now, as he infers, like it...or lump it.
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Old 24.09.2015, 11:41
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And the Americans' don't ?
Everyone does to a certain degree.

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I call on you all to leave Wollishofener alone now, there is no point in getting his back up as nothing anytime soon is going to change in Switzerland regarding smoking.

People do feel their liberty is being attacked here when you criticize their smoking habits.

For now, as he infers, like it...or lump it.
Unless you want to actively raise concerns on the dangers of smoking and the fact that having smoking as a normal part of life in Switzerland is not healthy for future generations.
You can do that by joining a pressure group.

There are one or two Swiss that feel this way as well.
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I call on you all to leave Wollishofener alone now, there is no point in getting his back up as nothing anytime soon is going to change in Switzerland regarding smoking.

People do feel their liberty is being attacked here when you criticize their smoking habits.

For now, as he infers, like it...or lump it.

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Re: Smoking on the train platforms.uughh

Perhaps i shall start to become a non-corteous smoker.

Sit in bus stops puffing away while a young mother and her buggy stand out in the rain.

Sit at a restaurant table and puff at a hand flaffing octogenarian.

Or blow it straight into the face of a pompous ex-pat prat.

I think i shall stay corteous to two out of three.
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Old 24.09.2015, 14:51
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Perhaps i shall start to become a non-corteous smoker.

Sit in bus stops puffing away while a young mother and her buggy stand out in the rain.

Sit at a restaurant table and puff at a hand flaffing octogenarian.

Or blow it straight into the face of a pompous ex-pat prat.

I think i shall stay corteous to two out of three.
It was my kid who complained. He has a Swiss passport. Do you?

Are you this unpleasant in real-life?
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Re: Smoking on the train platforms.uughh

And how do you feel Tom?

Going into the Pets Corner, and on a lovely thread about getting a new kitten. You had to post something about how cats suffer from passive smoking - pointed at me!

That is downright rude, to the OP of the thread and to others that posted.

Keep your arguments about smoking to here, do not throw them all around the whole forum.

Sadly, for you, i am polite. But you don't seem to be.

And all the cats that i have ever had have lived to around 15 or 16. One even made it to 18. So put that in your bubble and smoke it.

Oh, sorry you can't. Arms may wave in the air, and you may be gasping for oxygen.

Am i Swiss? Probably more Swiss than you will ever be.

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Going into the Pets Corner, and on a lovely thread about getting a new kitten. You had to post something about how cats suffer from passive smoking - pointed at me!

Keep your arguments about smoking to here, do not throw them all around the whole forum.
It was a thread about getting cats and rules on animal welfare. You had contributed to that thread.

Perhaps there are rules? As an animal lover, you ought to appreciate that.

Kittens and younger cats have, like small children, small delicate lungs. Surely as an animal lover, you would think these ought to be protected? (The kittens, obviously, not the small children).

There were other posts about the welfare of cats - such as keeping two as one may get lonely.
Why is passive smoking not a welfare concern too? I thought you were an animal lover? I must have been mistaken.

I was reading the thread as we're thinking of getting a cat too.


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I never said I was.

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And all the cats that i have ever had have lived to around 15 or 16. One even made it to 18. So put that in your bubble and smoke it.
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Ah, the old, 'my grandfather lived to 102 and smoked 40 Woodbines a day' argument so smoking must be safe.

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Am i Swiss? Probably more Swiss than you will ever be.
Well that's good as I don't aspire to be Swiss.

And Patsycat, this thread had actually got pretty civilised until you repeatedly came back with inflammatory posts designed to be provocative:

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I haven't taken a train in years. So have no further comment about the OP.

But, i have been told by a friend who takes trains that she hates it when the non smoking coffee drinkers who wait for trains and drop their coffees on the platform, splash her shoes with yucky coffee, and sometimes the coffee gets a cig butt wet and that is the awful un washable stain on her Louboutain's!!

Rejoice, ex or anti smokers. You shall have your nice warm cafés all to yourselves. Whilst we, the smokers, shiver and shake outside.

Enjoy. Until March - when we shall take over again!! And cramp your hand waving, pseudo coughing style!!

Sometimes, as a smoker. I actually think, perhaps, i should blow in their pompous, supercillious faces. Just to have a laugh.

But i don't. I respect. I do the handwaving.

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Keep on jumping in your little perfect smoke free imaginary world.

Because it shall never happen.

And i shall keep jumping living in a country that lets me smoke in places that other countries do not.

Perhaps we should start a thread about how absolutely disgusting it is about people who chew chewing gum all day every day.. Probably because they are giving up smoking and then stick it under tables or bus seats. Or even on bus seats. which i sat on. Not nice.

You would all be up in arms about that one. Same same but different.

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...Sit at a restaurant table and puff at a hand flaffing octogenarian.

Or blow it straight into the face of a pompous ex-pat prat.

I think i shall stay corteous to two out of three.
I should have done the more adult thing and just ignored you but I know you like it really
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It was a thread about getting cats and rules on animal welfare. You had contributed to that thread.

Perhaps there are rules? As an animal lover, you ought to appreciate that.

Kittens and younger cats have, like small children, small delicate lungs. Surely as an animal lover, you would think these ought to be protected? (The kittens, obviously, not the small children).

There were other posts about the welfare of cats - such as keeping two as one may get lonely.
Why is passive smoking not a welfare concern too? I thought you were an animal lover? I must have been mistaken.

I was reading the thread as we're thinking of getting a cat too.




I never said I was.



Ah, the old, 'my grandfather lived to 102 and smoked 40 Woodbines a day' argument so smoking must be safe.



Well that's good as I don't aspire to be Swiss.

And Patsycat, this thread had actually got pretty civilised until you repeatedly came back with inflammatory posts designed to be provocative:









I should have done the more adult thing and just ignored you but I know you like it really



Whatever, please do NOT ignore others. Brits who ignore others who are close to vanish into space like rockets are the plague. I have it with my 2nd-year-kindergarten-teacher who told me in 1957 there is no question that cannot be answered, whatever the reaction can be --- the youngish lady was Montessori educated
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Whatever, please do NOT ignore others. Brits who ignore others who are close to vanish into space like rockets are the plague. I have it with my 2nd-year-kindergarten-teacher who told me in 1957 there is no question that cannot be answered, whatever the reaction can be --- the youngish lady was Montessori educated
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