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Actually it happens all the time, never under estimate the customs people or the post office. Ive even had them open packages of books to check
I'm not arguing with that. Postal customs clearance is carefully verifying invoices and package contents.

Couriers such as UPS, DHL, FedEX handle these things on their own and are not so picky.
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Re: Import tax on internet purchases

My rule of thumb is that there's no import tax problem when ordering via the internet, if I keep the order under about £40.

So, I happily buy my DVDs/CDs/computer & nerdy parts through
Amazon.co.uk
play.com
mymemory.co.uk
and split the orders where necessary.

Oh, and where possible, I always use www.Quidco.co.uk

You register for free, and they have a mountain of websites where, if you visit them via the QuidCo website, you get a % of commission paid back to you.

For example, when I booked through Hertz's website, I pay the same as everyone else, but about 1 month later, I get 10% of the bill as cash, paid straight into my bank account. With Expedia.co.uk or Hotels.com I also get about 10%-12% back.

Simply the most useful website I've ever used (even now I've left the UK and am living in CH !)
https://www.quidco.com/in-the-news/2010
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Old 11.10.2010, 13:56
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For ordinary post: Since value is over 500CHF, the standard procedure applies and fee is 35CHF. Details here:
http://www.poste.ch/post-startseite/...ernational.htm

Couriers typically charge between 30 and 60 CHF for taking care of custom duties.

I think you're on the safe side. If the hardware is Made in Italy, it might be a good idea to find a shop in Europe. USD195 for shipping is a lot of money.
Thank you for the information! It's good news for me.

It does seem like it would be better to source them from Europe since they are Italian, but so far I have not found a European shop that is selling them for as low (even considering shipping) as they are sold in the US. I am not sure why this is the case. Odd, isn't it?
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Old 11.10.2010, 13:58
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Re: Import tax on internet purchases

I've just been charged CHF55.70 for a hard drive that was sent back to the manufacturer for RMA replacement. Me <---- Not a happy bunny. CHF5.70 for VAT the rest is charged by DHL for "handling" the VAT payment.
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Re: Import tax on internet purchases

Serafina, I've been in the exact same situation, and what vie come up with is this. Camera bodies and lenses, strobes etc are better purchased in Switzerland. It's often even cheaper here. But everything else, stands, hardware etc is always cheaper to buy either in Asia or the US, even after shipping and import fees. The only thing I'd say is try finding anyone other than b&h, since their international shippingmis always outrageous. It looks like you're ordering bogen/manfrotto. You might want to search ebay for the same stuff out of Vietnam or Taiwan. It might take a while to find but when you do, it will cost 1/4 of the Swiss price after all is said and done.

Still, you'll save a few hundred bucks going with b&h, so go for it.

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Shipping from the us is not really cheaper by the time youve paid the extra costs.
Depends on what it is. I bought a kiln that I had shipped from the US. Adding up the kiln, FedEx charges, duty/taxes/fees, it still cost me CHF400 less than the price of the kiln not including shipping from Zurich to VD.
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Re: Import tax on internet purchases

Serafina> If you post the names/models of the stuff you're looking for, I'll be glad to help looking around.
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Serafina> If you post the names/models of the stuff you're looking for, I'll be glad to help looking around.
I'd love any and all help - thank you.

Here's the list.
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Re: Import tax on internet purchases

Having found some distributor price lists for France and Italy, I can confirm that US prices are indeed much lower, so this time it's not really a "Swiss issue" with these outrageous price differences :-).

ftp://ftp.bitbit.it/Canon-EOS/Deplia...inclusa%29.pdf

http://www.legrandformat.com/Neuf/MA...gen%202010.pdf

Also www.idealo.de finds the items you want, but also more expensive than in the US and not all shops will ship to Switzerland. You'd have to see if this calculates favorably for you.

You may also check www.amazon.com - they stock these products although slightly more expensive than B&H photo. Perhaps their shipping will be cheaper? Amazon also handles the import taxes and you can see the calculated total after tax already at checkout. They don't charge any processing fee unlike the post office or couriers so there's some saving potential.

Other then that, it could be that you've already chosen optimally. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
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Old 12.10.2010, 14:08
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Having found some distributor price lists for France and Italy, I can confirm that US prices are indeed much lower, so this time it's not really a "Swiss issue" with these outrageous price differences :-).

ftp://ftp.bitbit.it/Canon-EOS/Deplia...inclusa%29.pdf

http://www.legrandformat.com/Neuf/MA...gen%202010.pdf

Also www.idealo.de finds the items you want, but also more expensive than in the US and not all shops will ship to Switzerland. You'd have to see if this calculates favorably for you.

You may also check www.amazon.com - they stock these products although slightly more expensive than B&H photo. Perhaps their shipping will be cheaper? Amazon also handles the import taxes and you can see the calculated total after tax already at checkout. They don't charge any processing fee unlike the post office or couriers so there's some saving potential.

Other then that, it could be that you've already chosen optimally. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
Thank you so much for your time and energies. I also looked for the parts in DE, IT, FR and UK. Shockingly they are all more expensive than in the US.

I will definitely check out your amazon suggestion. I hadn't thought of that one.

Thanks again!
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Re: Import tax on internet purchases

So, has anyone imported a sofa? Thinking about getting a German company to deliver one.

I've been on this site as suggested : http://www.tares.ch/ but I simply could not find sofas anywhere in the lists!

I read somewhere else on this post that duties can be charged by kilo though, so the thought of importing a sofa scares me slightly!!
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So, has anyone imported a sofa? Thinking about getting a German company to deliver one.

I've been on this site as suggested : http://www.tares.ch/ but I simply could not find sofas anywhere in the lists!

I read somewhere else on this post that duties can be charged by kilo though, so the thought of importing a sofa scares me slightly!!
I bought a 100Kg treadmill and had the same concern - but the "duties" when billed were only for MwsT. Result .
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Re: Import tax on internet purchases

Hello everyone.

I'm going to travel to Switzerland by the end of the year and I was thinking about buying some stuff online, sending it to a friend's house there and then picking it up when I arrive.

However by reading this post, it seems really complicated to do so, and I was wondering if you could help me with a few questions. I'd appreciate a lot.

The first thing is: These taxes, if they are applied to my package, how do I pay them? Will my package be delivered to my friends house along with some sort of bill or will it be stuck in the post office until someone goes there pick it and pay the taxes?
Also, how long do I have to pay those?

I don't wana give my friend any trouble. I just wan't the package to arrive at his house, I pick it up and pay the necessary taxes, since I will stay only one day at his city...

I saw that the normal vat taxing is 7% of the produt value right? But it seems there is some extra charging for handling... is there a way to calculate these handling taxes?
For instance, if I buy a $1.000,00 product, how much extra would I have to pay for it?

Thank you very much!

PS: I'm planning to buy stuff from a US and a UK website, don't know if there's any difference, but anyway....
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.... These taxes, if they are applied to my package, how do I pay them? Will my package be delivered to my friends house along with some sort of bill or will it be stuck in the post office until someone goes there pick it and pay the taxes? ....
.... I saw that the normal vat taxing is 7% of the produt value right? But it seems there is some extra charging for handling... is there a way to calculate these handling taxes?
For instance, if I buy a $1.000,00 product, how much extra would I have to pay for it? ....
You have to tell the kind of product you would like to buy and then search for it on the page: http://www.tares.ch Additional charges are specified there.

If the package is delivered by swiss post, you have to pay and pick the package on post office.
If it is delivered by DHL or UPS you will receive invoice and have to pay it afterwards.

Additional charges are also taken by Swiss post or DHL.
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For ordinary post: Since value is over 500CHF, the standard procedure applies and fee is 35CHF. Details here:
http://www.poste.ch/post-startseite/...ernational.htm

Couriers typically charge between 30 and 60 CHF for taking care of custom duties.
Advice: If you order the item to your friend, make sure his/her name is written also on invoice.
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Re: Import tax on internet purchases

Just one idea to buy shoes online in Switzerland (i.e. no customs): try www.koala.ch

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Re: Import tax on internet purchases

How about this:

Say I buy something from Amazon.de and have it shipped to a German address. Paying German VAT etc.

Is it then possible to import it into Switzerland and claim back the German tax?

For books on Amazon.de it is easy to have them sent directly to Switzerland, and the total price is cheaper than the German price and much cheaper than the Swiss price.

Say I buy a netbook or mobile phone in Germany (over the internet). Have it shipped to a German address. The value is under 300Fr, so I can import into Switzerland within my allowance. Can I get the tax refund?

This could solve many of the problems in this thread. (Provided you have a friend in the EU, and you can time your purchases to coincide with visits)

I would also love to know how to claim back tax on Internet purchases which I bring over the Swiss border myself.
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How about this:

Say I buy something from Amazon.de and have it shipped to a German address. Paying German VAT etc.

Is it then possible to import it into Switzerland and claim back the German tax?

For books on Amazon.de it is easy to have them sent directly to Switzerland, and the total price is cheaper than the German price and much cheaper than the Swiss price.

Say I buy a netbook or mobile phone in Germany (over the internet). Have it shipped to a German address. The value is under 300Fr, so I can import into Switzerland within my allowance. Can I get the tax refund?

This could solve many of the problems in this thread. (Provided you have a friend in the EU, and you can time your purchases to coincide with visits)

I would also love to know how to claim back tax on Internet purchases which I bring over the Swiss border myself.
No because the final address from the sales outlet is to the address in Germany. Thus the item was bought in Germany to Germany.
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Re: Import tax on internet purchases

i'm rubbish at finding customs codes etc. does anyone know if there is a list of duties for common items e.g. as it is getting to xmas, i'm thinking about things such as laptops, ipods, cameras etc. bringing them from HK where they are cheaper.
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Re: Import tax on internet purchases

Here you go Phil...

http://xtares.admin.ch/tares/login/l...name=&password=

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No because the final address from the sales outlet is to the address in Germany. Thus the item was bought in Germany to Germany.
Same as any purchase from in tax-free shopping bought in Germany, the tax back comes when I personally take it over the border and declare it.

Is there really no way this can be done for internet shopping? Say I have a different (swiss) invoice address to delivery address from Amazon?

This would allow savings on electronics up to the value of 300Fr from Amazon (which as far as I can see cannot be posted to CH without high admin fees).
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