Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Living in Switzerland > Complaints corner
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #261  
Old 18.11.2011, 12:29
FCBarca's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: La Côte
Posts: 608
Groaned at 60 Times in 26 Posts
Thanked 510 Times in 246 Posts
FCBarca has a reputation beyond reputeFCBarca has a reputation beyond reputeFCBarca has a reputation beyond reputeFCBarca has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Put smokers in a sealed room, let them kill eachother
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank FCBarca for this useful post:
The following 2 users groan at FCBarca for this post:
  #262  
Old 18.11.2011, 12:37
Kamarate's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Neuchatel
Posts: 1,915
Groaned at 57 Times in 38 Posts
Thanked 1,619 Times in 685 Posts
Kamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Will everyone stop being so dramatic? "Let them kill each other"? Really? There's just no need to treat other people with such contempt. I agree, there should be "smoking rooms" or "smoking boxes". Can't people express what they think about smoking regulations without resorting to such phrases?
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Kamarate for this useful post:
  #263  
Old 18.11.2011, 12:48
Big Mac #24's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 246
Groaned at 4 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 205 Times in 83 Posts
Big Mac #24 has earned some respectBig Mac #24 has earned some respect
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Just to add a little humour to the debate!

WARNING CONTAINS STRONG LANGUAGE - MORE THAN ONCE!


Reply With Quote
  #264  
Old 18.11.2011, 13:22
KeinFranzösisch's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 2,212
Groaned at 64 Times in 39 Posts
Thanked 2,549 Times in 1,115 Posts
KeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Quote:
View Post
Will everyone stop being so dramatic? "Let them kill each other"? Really? There's just no need to treat other people with such contempt. I agree, there should be "smoking rooms" or "smoking boxes". Can't people express what they think about smoking regulations without resorting to such phrases?
"Rauchen ist tödlich" (smoking is deadly)

I don't think anyone on EF coined that phrase, but it is a medical fact and that phrase is on a lot of cigarette packages and advertisements.

So if we say, "put them in a box and let them kill each other," then I find it rather appropriate.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank KeinFranzösisch for this useful post:
This user groans at KeinFranzösisch for this post:
  #265  
Old 18.11.2011, 13:23
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Zurich
Posts: 41
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 19 Times in 10 Posts
BobbysAnorak has no particular reputation at present
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Quote:
View Post
"Rauchen ist tödlich" (smoking is deadly)

I don't think anyone on EF coined that phrase, but it is a medical fact and that phrase is on a lot of cigarette packages and advertisements.

So if we say, "put them in a box and let them kill each other," then I find it rather appropriate.

Do you drive a car?
Reply With Quote
  #266  
Old 18.11.2011, 13:28
KeinFranzösisch's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 2,212
Groaned at 64 Times in 39 Posts
Thanked 2,549 Times in 1,115 Posts
KeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Quote:
View Post
Do you drive a car?
Do you use electricity?
Reply With Quote
  #267  
Old 18.11.2011, 13:29
Ouchboy's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Baden
Posts: 3,032
Groaned at 33 Times in 28 Posts
Thanked 4,545 Times in 1,776 Posts
Blog Entries: 19
Ouchboy has a reputation beyond reputeOuchboy has a reputation beyond reputeOuchboy has a reputation beyond reputeOuchboy has a reputation beyond reputeOuchboy has a reputation beyond reputeOuchboy has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Do bears shit in the woods?
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank Ouchboy for this useful post:
  #268  
Old 18.11.2011, 13:32
Mud's Avatar
Mud Mud is offline
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Romandie
Posts: 2,567
Groaned at 26 Times in 23 Posts
Thanked 4,996 Times in 1,823 Posts
Mud has a reputation beyond reputeMud has a reputation beyond reputeMud has a reputation beyond reputeMud has a reputation beyond reputeMud has a reputation beyond reputeMud has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Does the pope wear a funny hat?
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Mud for this useful post:
  #269  
Old 18.11.2011, 13:33
JBZ86's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Zurich and various mountains
Posts: 3,705
Groaned at 536 Times in 346 Posts
Thanked 4,257 Times in 1,943 Posts
JBZ86 has a reputation beyond reputeJBZ86 has a reputation beyond reputeJBZ86 has a reputation beyond reputeJBZ86 has a reputation beyond reputeJBZ86 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Yes but i was born with asthma, AND ITS ALL YOU SMOKERS FAULT

And I have sensitive eyes AND ITS ALL YOU SMOKERS FAULT

And PASSIVE SMOKING KILLS 600,000!!!!!!

FACTually, not one death certificate in the world has cause of death as “passive smoking”.

Anti’s will argue its the diseases associated that kill. Really? Really? Well, not every smoker gets cancer, in fact, most don’t, and if they do as they do stand an increased chance, it is generally after decades of smoking and contracted in relative old age. The statistical increase in chemicals in the body for passive smokers is so minute, they would have to passive smoke in a concentrated area for something like 300 years to consume the amount a smoker does! In fact, I think the official statistics is 12 years to consume what a smoker consumes in a day. Now I know life time expectancy has increased in this modern day, but 300 years is a push. Likewise, the studies do not even take into account the exposure those studied have had to other cancer causing chemicals, which can be found in various other pollutions and foods, for example tomatoes contain a chemical that causes cancer and is also present in cigarette smoke, as does whole milk.

Some studies out of the 140 or so that have been carried out even show passive smoking to cause a protective effect.

One shouldn’t discount the overall objective of the WHO and other anti smoking organisations, and that is to cut down the number of people smoking and dying as a result. But the passive smoke argument is so exaggerated, purposefully, in an effort to convert these smokers and/or have them be alienated by the people who buy all the guff.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank JBZ86 for this useful post:
  #270  
Old 18.11.2011, 13:37
Sandgrounder's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ZH
Posts: 9,686
Groaned at 73 Times in 66 Posts
Thanked 14,740 Times in 5,752 Posts
Sandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Quote:
View Post
[SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]FACTually, not one death certificate in the world has cause of death as “passive smoking”.
To be fair, you won't find one death certificate in the world that has the cause of death as "passenger in a car" either.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Sandgrounder for this useful post:
  #271  
Old 18.11.2011, 13:48
JBZ86's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Zurich and various mountains
Posts: 3,705
Groaned at 536 Times in 346 Posts
Thanked 4,257 Times in 1,943 Posts
JBZ86 has a reputation beyond reputeJBZ86 has a reputation beyond reputeJBZ86 has a reputation beyond reputeJBZ86 has a reputation beyond reputeJBZ86 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Quote:
View Post
To be fair, you won't find one death certificate in the world that has the cause of death as "passenger in a car" either.
No you won’t, that is absolutely correct.

But I am glad you brought this up, as road accidents are responsible for more deaths than supposed passive smoking.

Lets ban all cars, lorries, motorbikes, etc
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank JBZ86 for this useful post:
  #272  
Old 18.11.2011, 13:49
KeinFranzösisch's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 2,212
Groaned at 64 Times in 39 Posts
Thanked 2,549 Times in 1,115 Posts
KeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Quote:
View Post
No you won’t, that is absolutely correct.

But I am glad you brought this up, as road accidents are responsible for more deaths than supposed passive smoking.

Lets ban all cars, lorries, motorbikes, etc
Cancer = #1 killer

Self-correction... sorry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._death_by_rate
Reply With Quote
  #273  
Old 18.11.2011, 13:51
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Zurich
Posts: 41
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 19 Times in 10 Posts
BobbysAnorak has no particular reputation at present
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Quote:
View Post
Do you use electricity?
Answering a question with a question... what a wonderful way to debate a point.
Reply With Quote
  #274  
Old 18.11.2011, 13:51
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Zurich
Posts: 41
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 19 Times in 10 Posts
BobbysAnorak has no particular reputation at present
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Quote:
View Post
Cancer = #1 killer
That isn't actually true, but don't let a fact get in the way of your opinion now will you?
Reply With Quote
  #275  
Old 18.11.2011, 13:52
KeinFranzösisch's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 2,212
Groaned at 64 Times in 39 Posts
Thanked 2,549 Times in 1,115 Posts
KeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Quote:
View Post
Answering a question with a question... what a wonderful way to debate a point.
Not playing the "let's see whose slope is more slippery" game.
Reply With Quote
  #276  
Old 18.11.2011, 13:57
Mud's Avatar
Mud Mud is offline
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Romandie
Posts: 2,567
Groaned at 26 Times in 23 Posts
Thanked 4,996 Times in 1,823 Posts
Mud has a reputation beyond reputeMud has a reputation beyond reputeMud has a reputation beyond reputeMud has a reputation beyond reputeMud has a reputation beyond reputeMud has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Quote:
View Post
Cancer = #1 killer

Self-correction... sorry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._death_by_rate
From the same wonderful source:

Quote:
The corresponding estimates for lifelong nonsmokers are a 1.1% probability of dying from lung cancer before age 85 for a man of European descent, and a 0.8% probability for a woman.
Whoohoo!
Reply With Quote
  #277  
Old 18.11.2011, 14:04
JBZ86's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Zurich and various mountains
Posts: 3,705
Groaned at 536 Times in 346 Posts
Thanked 4,257 Times in 1,943 Posts
JBZ86 has a reputation beyond reputeJBZ86 has a reputation beyond reputeJBZ86 has a reputation beyond reputeJBZ86 has a reputation beyond reputeJBZ86 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Quote:
View Post
Cancer = #1 killer

Self-correction... sorry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._death_by_rate

Factually wrong again.

Are you referring to cardiovascular diseases?

Also caused by:

Diet
Alcohol
Salt
High blood pressure
Diabetes
Stress

Amongst other things.

Must be the smoke i guess though
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank JBZ86 for this useful post:
  #278  
Old 18.11.2011, 15:00
KeinFranzösisch's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 2,212
Groaned at 64 Times in 39 Posts
Thanked 2,549 Times in 1,115 Posts
KeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Quote:
View Post
Factually wrong again.

Are you referring to cardiovascular diseases?

Also caused by:

Diet
Alcohol
Salt
High blood pressure
Diabetes
Stress

Amongst other things.

Must be the smoke i guess though
You made those inferences. Not I. You can't disprove me (or Wikipedia) by building up your strawman and then tearing it down.
Reply With Quote
  #279  
Old 18.11.2011, 15:12
Sandgrounder's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ZH
Posts: 9,686
Groaned at 73 Times in 66 Posts
Thanked 14,740 Times in 5,752 Posts
Sandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond reputeSandgrounder has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Quote:
View Post
Must be the smoke i guess though
Just to understand where you are coming from; do you believe there is absolutely no danger to health from passive smoking?
Reply With Quote
  #280  
Old 18.11.2011, 15:15
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Zurich
Posts: 41
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 19 Times in 10 Posts
BobbysAnorak has no particular reputation at present
Re: Smokers on railway stations

Quote:
View Post
Just to understand where you are coming from; do you believe there is absolutely no danger to health from passive smoking?

In the fresh air? Out in the open? You're more at danger from the poisons being spewed from the exhaust fumes of cars or the dog mess of inconsiderate owners.

Indoors is an entirely different matter, as I have already said.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Smokers' odor KeinFranzösisch General off-topic 32 16.11.2011 23:06
Wallet stolen at Lausanne railway stations alfred007 Daily life 42 08.11.2010 21:44
"Personenunfall" on SBB railway MrVertigo Daily life 40 22.10.2010 14:39
Swiss TV stations on satellite? aceq TV/internet/telephone 7 21.12.2009 11:13
Migros 54 CHF 1 day SBB travel card for 2 people. Is it valid on Pilatus railway empeppa Transportation/driving 1 18.07.2009 03:16


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 20:04.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0