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Re: Starbucks Coffee

And while we're on the topic of Australian coffee....

What the hell is a 'flat white'? What was wrong with a 'white coffee'?
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And while we're on the topic of Australian coffee....

What the hell is a 'flat white'? What was wrong with a 'white coffee'?
I was going to post this in explanation but I didn't get further than "English speaking languages"

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Old 23.07.2014, 02:38
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Re: Starbucks Coffee

After carefully sampling lattes made by different coffee chains during my stint in the UK, I have come to the conclusion that Starbucks coffee has been the worst so far. It tastes "burnt".
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After carefully sampling lattes made by different coffee chains during my stint in the UK, I have come to the conclusion that Starbucks coffee has been the worst so far. It tastes "burnt".
What you describe as BURNT to me is just CORRECTLY DONE
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Re: Starbucks Coffee

Starbuck's is contributing to the closure of small, local cafés and the identity of towns and cities is fast eroded by these ghastly chains. What is wrong with a small Turkish, Italian, Swiss café?....oh, they serve REAL coffee! For the "Latte Brigade", I suggest you read Ben Elton's "Blind Faith", to find out what happens to a society where everything is "sweetened, loud and standardised".
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Starbuck's is contributing to the closure of small, local cafés and the identity of towns and cities is fast eroded by these ghastly chains. What is wrong with a small Turkish, Italian, Swiss café?
Did you actually read the rest of the thread? These points were discussed almost ad nauseum earlier on, with quite a few folks disagreeing with your view and some examples of decent cafes surviving, where Starbucks failed.

So it's not as black and white as you make it.
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Did you actually read the rest of the thread? These points were discussed almost ad nauseum earlier on, with quite a few folks disagreeing with your view and some examples of decent cafes surviving, where Starbucks failed.

So it's not as black and white as you make it.
No, I could not be bothered to read 27 pages on the "they who shall not be named". I have known (not just read about) of enough small, family-run cafés that went under, not through lack of hard work and customer service, but the setting of SB in their proximity. That is enough, I would hope, for me to vent my dislike of the place. And Ben Elton's book is a brilliant one tool!
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No, I could not be bothered to read 27 pages on the "they who shall not be named". I have known (not just read about) of enough small, family-run cafés that went under, not through lack of hard work and customer service, but the setting of SB in their proximity. That is enough, I would hope, for me to vent my dislike of the place. And Ben Elton's book is a brilliant one tool!
So you're happy to read Ben Elton's diatribes against all things capitalist, but not to read discussions that might actually educate you a little?

Right, that sounds fair-minded.
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Re: Starbucks Coffee

And most starbucks are a franchise so it is a local business.
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So you're happy to read Ben Elton's diatribes against all things capitalist, but not to read discussions that might actually educate you a little?

Right, that sounds fair-minded.

I don't need to be educated, as far as SB is concerned. Maybe you should read this particular book by Ben Elton...either from the comfort of a standard brown sofa in SB, or even better, at the terrace of a nice independent café!

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And most starbucks are a franchise so it is a local business.

So is McDonald's, or is it another gap in my education?

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Maybe you should read this particular book by Ben Elton...either from the comfort of a standard brown sofa in SB, or even better, at the terrace of a nice independent café!
I've read some of his stuff and never really liked it much. You have to remember that it's fiction. and like most dystopian-future novels will start from a given premise,

<skim-reads reviews>

Yes, as I suspected, it's a story about people, which happens to be set in a world where we simple have to accept the state of things as a starting point for the story, Just like 1984, or the Hunger Games, or anything by Margaret Attwood, among many others. Very rarely are the scenarios in which these types of novels are set in any way realistic or even internally consistent.
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I've read some of his stuff and never really liked it much. You have to remember that it's fiction. and like most dystopian-future novels will start from a given premise,

<skim-reads reviews>

Yes, as I suspected, it's a story about people, which happens to be set in a world where we simple have to accept the state of things as a starting point for the story, Just like 1984, or the Hunger Games, or anything by Margaret Attwood, among many others. Very rarely are the scenarios in which these types of novels are set in any way realistic or even internally consistent.

Yes, you're right, it is a dystopian novel, but with, as many dystopian novels, an element of truth. The reason why I quoted this book is not because I am a fan of Ben Elton's (he gets on my nerves quite often), but in his book there is a striking passage about the main character discovering a "bitter" coffee, because every food is systematically sweetened (unsweet is forbidden), that's all. But you need to go beyond the sypnosis to fully appreciate its relevance to how I feel about SB.
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I don't need to be educated, as far as SB is concerned. Maybe you should read this particular book by Ben Elton...either from the comfort of a standard brown sofa in SB, or even better, at the terrace of a nice independent café!




So is McDonald's, or is it another gap in my education?
It is.......

As a local business then its the same as any other, the other businesses need to adapt and if they dont they loose trade... its quite simple.
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... from the comfort of a standard brown sofa in SB, !
BTW, how do you know they have brown sofas? I certainly didn't.
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Old 23.07.2014, 12:08
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Starbuck's is contributing to the closure of small, local cafés and the identity of towns and cities is fast eroded by these ghastly chains. What is wrong with a small Turkish, Italian, Swiss café?....oh, they serve REAL coffee! For the "Latte Brigade", I suggest you read Ben Elton's "Blind Faith", to find out what happens to a society where everything is "sweetened, loud and standardised".
Why read a book - anyone living in the US or UK can tell you what it's like. Ghastly.
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Re: Starbucks Coffee

Great news for me, if sbb will switch to starbucks. Lavazza is good, starbucks is better, but both lack some real coffee taste.
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After carefully sampling lattes made by different coffee chains during my stint in the UK, I have come to the conclusion that Starbucks coffee has been the worst so far. It tastes "burnt".
I had very bad coffee in the UK in general. I don't understand why people are still making instant but that is another story.

One was in a very cute local coffee shop. The coffee was so bad, watery, tasteless and horrible I just threw it out. The other was at Neri. Blech. Expensive and blech. The 'cakes' there were not better.

At least at Starbucks and Costa you know what you are getting and you can adjust it was you like. I usually have to get an extra shot of espresso in the tubs of coffee on offer.
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I'll take NERO over most other "chain" coffees

It is crazy how just going over the alps can halve the price and double the quality of an espresso - and I don't mean even crossing the border - you bastards in Ticino!!!
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I'll take NERO over most other "chain" coffees
I had heard Nero was good. So I went there first. It was not good and the "cakes" tasted, like, well, chain food. That is why I was even more disappointed with the cute local shop. You would think they cared more about what they were serving. At least the Nero was drinkable.
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I'll take NERO over most other "chain" coffees


Nero and Costa suck... maybe it's the ones I've specifically been to, but I don't even bother with them now.

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It is crazy how just going over the alps can halve the price and double the quality of an espresso - and I don't mean even crossing the border - you bastards in Ticino!!!


LOL. Too right.
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