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BTW, how do you know they have brown sofas? I certainly didn't.

I HAVE been to SB on three occasions (London, NYC, Nottingham), otherwise, what right would I have to complain?
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In my very long life I have tasted 3 coffees at Starbucks. Singapore, London, Easyjet, and 1 chocolate at London. All of them were for me memorable and for all the wrong reasons.

Now recently I read that next year the SBB / CFF are changing form Lavazza to Starbucks. I am really annoyed at this move, for my taste Lavazza is an excellent coffee, and Starbucks is the worst. People have different tastes, but to change from a European coffee to an American one is madness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavazza

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starbucks
I only ever go into Starbucks in Switzerland to charge my phone. I usually wait for someone who is sitting down to stand up, then take their empty coffee mug so I look like I ordered something, sit down and plug in...sorry Starbucks, but in CH your prices are RIDICULOUS! (Clearly, this is a student talking!)
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Old 28.07.2014, 15:35
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Now recently I read that next year the SBB / CFF are changing form Lavazza to Starbucks. I am really annoyed at this move, for my taste Lavazza is an excellent coffee, and Starbucks is the worst. People have different tastes, but to change from a European coffee to an American one is madness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavazza

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starbucks


My guess is that the move is cost oriented. Despite the steep prices, catering on trains is mostly a loss leader due to the difficult logistics. So every time some junior manager is asked to find ways of cutting costs, its an obvious candidate. On many routes we have seen dining cars incrementally downgraded to bistros and then replaced by trolleys and the choice and variety on those trolleys continuously cut back.

What they don't understand is that if you decrease quality, people are less likely to buy and so the tail-chasing exercise of trying to slash your way out of deficit fails.
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For those of you who mourn the loss of "independent family-run cafes" to chains like Starbucks in the United Kingdom, here's a reminder of what we've lost:

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I only ever go into Starbucks in Switzerland to charge my phone. I usually wait for someone who is sitting down to stand up, then take their empty coffee mug so I look like I ordered something, sit down and plug in...sorry Starbucks, but in CH your prices are RIDICULOUS! (Clearly, this is a student talking!)
Maybe coffee is more expensive cause you are sitting their taking up a space for a customer charging your phone...
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Old 15.02.2015, 19:36
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I only ever go into Starbucks in Switzerland to charge my phone. I usually wait for someone who is sitting down to stand up, then take their empty coffee mug so I look like I ordered something, sit down and plug in...sorry Starbucks, but in CH your prices are RIDICULOUS! (Clearly, this is a student talking!)
Phone calls are so expensive that I only ever go to Starbucks to make calls. I wait until someone charging their phone is looking the other way then I grab their phone and make a quick call.
Phone call prices are RIDICULOUS! (Clearly, this is a p1ss taker talking!)
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For those of you who mourn the loss of "independent family-run cafes" to chains like Starbucks in the United Kingdom, here's a reminder of what we've lost:

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Are you really sure Starbucks is a bad thing?
I spent many hours drinking stewed tea in places like that in my younger days.
Good memories indeed.
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Old 15.02.2015, 21:49
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Re: Starbucks Coffee

There are distinct advantages to the family run café in the UK - almost always empty (exceot on Market days), not mother-toddler meet-ups (kids are fine but the mothers) and no posh school mums playing GCSE roulette.
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I don't really understand why Starbucks is having such a success in Switzerland. For it's like the counterpart of MacDonald's for coffee shops.

I'm not a big fan of fast food either but I can understand they're use : eat fast. For coffee shops I do not get the need. Any coffee shops offer fast/take away coffee that would be cheaper, better and probably less carbon footprint
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Any coffee shops offer fast/take away coffee that would be cheaper, better and probably less carbon footprint
Huh? Why should a coffee bought somewhere else have a smaller carbon footprint?
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I don't really understand why Starbucks is having such a success in Switzerland. For it's like the counterpart of MacDonald's for coffee shops.

I'm not a big fan of fast food either but I can understand they're use : eat fast. For coffee shops I do not get the need. Any coffee shops offer fast/take away coffee that would be cheaper, better and probably less carbon footprint
Many coffee shops are not as cosy as Starbucks...and don't have a good coffee. Simples.

P.S. And I forgot the cakes!
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...and allow one to just get about their "business" or beverage consumption (cake eating optional) in relative peace. No hovering waiting staff. Free Wifi. Various seating options, one can be alone and not take a table suitable for 2 or more, etc.

Part of the original concept of Starbucks was to be a "third place" - not home, not work, but a space where one could feel "at home" and either alone or in the company of others work, socialise or...or daydream.
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Old 17.02.2015, 13:28
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...and allow one to just get about their "business" or beverage consumption (cake eating optional) in relative peace. No hovering waiting staff. Free Wifi. Various seating options, one can be alone and not take a table suitable for 2 or more, etc.

Part of the original concept of Starbucks was to be a "third place" - not home, not work, but a space where one could feel "at home" and either alone or in the company of others work, socialise or...or daydream.
Glad you love the place.

I must be unusual because I normally go to a coffee place to have a cup of coffee. The other stuff is nice, yes but primarily it's for a coffee.

And, Starbucks coffee must be about the only food/drink in the world that makes me wince when I drink it. It really is that foul.

I understand why people feel they need to disguise the taste with caramel and whipped cream and other flavours.
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Glad you love the place.

I must be unusual because I normally go to a coffee place to have a cup of coffee. The other stuff is nice, yes but primarily it's for a coffee.

And, Starbucks coffee must be about the only food/drink in the world that makes me wince when I drink it. It really is that foul.

I understand why people feel they need to disguise the taste with caramel and whipped cream and other flavours.
I can't remember the last time I went to a coffee place - they are mostly all overpriced (for what one gets) and leave me feeling disappointed. I do, however, always have work or something to read, and sometimes it is nice to do this outside of one's familiar surroundings - stimulates brain juice flow...

I think YOU have decided I love the place - stated nothing of the sort, just shedding some insight on why MANY (not me) people choose to drink their beverages there.

I have been to $* three times in CH since 2012, but yes, I do like the darker roasts and purchase the beans in EU countries (where they are more modestly priced) to use at home where I can make it as strong and concentrated as I like.

And now I think I'll have a "kenco" and take the dog for a run...the interminable perennial coffee debate isn't going anywhere soon.

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Old 17.02.2015, 14:18
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I can't remember the last time I went to a coffee place - they are mostly all overpriced (for what one gets) and leave me feeling disappointed. I do, however, always have work or something to read, and sometimes it is nice to do this outside of one's familiar surroundings - stimulates brain juice flow...

I think YOU have decided I love the place - stated nothing of the sort, just shedding some insight on why MANY (not me) people choose to drink their beverages there.
Sorry, another person on this forum writing about what others may or may not like on their behalf.

I write about what I like or don't like. Not what I think others may or may not like.
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Sorry, another person on this forum writing about what others may or may not like on their behalf.

I write about what I like or don't like. Not what I think others may or may not like.
Sorry, but Tasebo made a few really good points here..yes she's right, at least as far as I'm concerned..and I bet we're not the only ones who think this way.
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I must be unusual because I normally go to a coffee place to have a cup of coffee.

Yes you are. Almost nobody goes to a cafe just to drink coffee, just as almost nobody goes to a pub just to drink beer and almost nobody goes to a restaurant just to eat food.


But you knew that, right?
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Yes you are. Almost nobody goes to a cafe just to drink coffee, just as almost nobody goes to a pub just to drink beer and almost nobody goes to a restaurant just to eat food.


But you knew that, right?
Yes, I guess for some people, what the food tastes like, what the beer tastes like and what the coffee tastes like is secondary to anything else.

Isn't that how Disneyland restaurants work?
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Yes, I guess for some people, what the food tastes like, what the beer tastes like and what the coffee tastes like is secondary to anything else.

Isn't that how Disneyland restaurants work?
It's how all restaurants work.

... in the real world, at least.
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If anyone tried to interpret Tom1234's public profile they would probably dismiss this whole discussion..."likes eating KFC" "veganism"...its ok Tom, the fog and lack of sun over in Wädi can do a trip on one's head
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