Not built in Ireland but northern Ireland, A place so religious they have been at each other's throats for the longest, all disputing over who's brand is best. yet if the Priest's story is true at no point did one of these God fearing folk look up at the painter and say " Ya know Paddy, I don't think y'ur man upstairs will take kindly to them words" " I feel ye Mick that'll end badly" and how did they name and launch her with such a statement on her? With a bottle of ginger beer? " May Bob bless her and all who sail in her"?
Unless of course the "unrest" in the yard was one of the Catholic's pointing out such a thing lol
There was no ceremony at the launch. None of the whitestar ships were Christened.
Our young, local Swiss priest preached to the First Communion kids today that the text "No God, No Church" was printed on the side of the Titanic and that's exactly where the iceberg hit.
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Our local Vicar (in the UK) told our 5 year old that 'of course you are Christened, your parents would never allow you to grown up not Christened, as if you died, you wouldn't be able to go to Heaven (he fell short of telling her she would go to hell, but she was a very clever little thing and worked that one out for herself). And that was in our village school, as part of the normal curriculum.
Tears and nightmare for many nights to come. In those days I was meek and mild, and still regret not going to see the stupid old fool to tell him how I felt about that. ******
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I could see how such arrogance turns to blindness, even to the dangers of icebergs. So some can say the Titanic sank due to the captain's arrogance, rather than an act of God.... but some may say its one and same difference.
I think it sank because it had a big hole in it.
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"I cannot imagine any condition which would cause a ship to founder. I cannot conceive of any vital disaster happening to this vessel. Modern ship building has gone beyond that."
-Captain Smith, Commander of Titanic
It's probably the lesson the preacher was teaching: The dangers of fully believing in the superiority of one's own smugness. Atheists take heed.
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It's probably the lesson the preacher was teaching: The dangers of fully believing in the superiority of one's own smugness. Atheists take heed.
I'd take a look at myself, first, before warning anyone else about taking heed. Smug, indeed. Obviously, believing in god doesn't prevent hubris, either.
Personally, I'd rather take heed of people telling me what I should believe. That's real arrogance.
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It's probably the lesson the preacher was teaching: The dangers of fully believing in the superiority of one's own smugness. Atheists take heed.
Surely you mean smug people take head?
'Cos I could point to a fair few people who are:
1) Religious and smug
2) Religious and not smug
3) Atheist and not smug
4) Atheist and smug
Furthermore, that doesn't take into account the several human errors that occurred, which could be completely independent of "Religious smugness factor".
Beware of Matthew 7:3...
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'Cos I could point to a fair few people who are:
1) Religious and smug
2) Religious and not smug
3) Atheist and not smug
4) Atheist and smug
Furthermore, that doesn't take into account the several human errors that occurred, which could be completely independent of "Religious smugness factor".
"I cannot imagine any condition which would cause a ship to founder. I cannot conceive of any vital disaster happening to this vessel. Modern ship building has gone beyond that."
-Captain Smith, Commander of Titanic
It's probably the lesson the preacher was teaching: The dangers of fully believing in the superiority of one's own smugness. Atheists take heed.
The captain was a religious man (Etruria Methodist Church), not an Atheist. Maybe he thought God was protecting his ship and he didn't need to?
What was he doing before disaster struck?
"Sunday was the one day of the week that the captain was not required to make a detailed tour of inspection. But any thoughts of a quiet morning, however, was ruined as early as 9AM when the ship received a two day old wireless message from Captain Barr of the Cunarder Caronia, which was journeying east from New York to Liverpool. It read: "Captain Titanic - Westbound steamers report bergs, growlers, and field ice in 42 degrees North from 49 degrees to 51 degrees West. April 12. Compliments, Barr". A growler is a nautical term for a small iceberg.
After reading the message, which was delivered to him on the bridge, Captain Smith had it posted for his officers. Then at 10:30AM he led a religious service in the first-class dining saloon. The service was not from the Church of England's "Book of Common Prayer", but rather, from the company's own prayer book. All present joined in the hymn "Eternal Father, Strong to Save" which ends with "Oh hear us when we cry to thee for those in peril on the sea." The service ended at 11AM."
Maybe if he hadn't been wasting his time leading religious services and taking heed of ice berg warnings it all might have been avoided?
The pious should take heed.
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