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due to feeling all self righteous, i made my bf take a trip with me back to the shop to tell them that i didn't appreciate being made to feel like a thief. turns out, the lady who accused me is only a "temp" and that she...is...not swiss. and also, they apparently have had some problems with loiterers in the past weeks, who did try to steal. she explained they are only a little shop, and when someone steals, it hurts more than if someone was stealing from a big store. and she apologized!

but now i wonder, do all employees who behave poorly get classified as "temporary?"

thanks for all the posts, it made me realize that this crud happens to people all the time.
I could have told you right away that the shop assistant wasn't Swiss. We with our passive aggressive attitude would have called the police without any prior discussion. Conclusion of the discussion: You were accused of shoplifting by a foreigner who hates other foreigners and for sure must have strong bonds to the SVP. Vive la généralisation!
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Old 15.06.2012, 11:12
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I could have told you right away that the shop assistant wasn't Swiss. We with our passive aggressive attitude would have called the police without any prior discussion. Conclusion of the discussion: You were accused of shoplifting by a foreigner who hates other foreigners and for sure must have strong bonds to the SVP. Vive la généralisation!
And thank Goodness she isn't Indian, Turkish or spanish.

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Re: accused of shoplifting, but not really?

Could the OP please post the name and location of the store?
I've once been surrounded by not 1, not 2, but 3 Lidl store employees as I walked out of the store with an "extra" criossant I took on the way out because the cashier was unable to count. I asked her if I could just grab another one on the way out and she said sure. I guess that embarrassing scene could have been avoided had she told the other employees I could take the already paid for criossant.
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Re: accused of shoplifting, but not really?

It was a little store in the passage shopping center in Frauenfeld. The clerk was in the store at the time. And no, I am not presuming that Turkish, Spanish or other "minorities" are more likely to steal, and as for being from the South- I am a Democrat.

I thought it'd be a waste of time to ask for an apology, but i was wrong. All's well that ends well!
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And no, I am not presuming that Turkish, Spanish or other "minorities" are more likely to steal,
They aren't more likely to steal, they are more likely to be poor.
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They aren't more likely to steal, they are more likely to be poor.
Define poor...
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what a disgusting comment you have drop here, despising 4 nationalities is not going to change how you were treated in that shop. This comment make you look worse than the lady at the shop, think about it.

SVP are clearly not the only ones with an "ugly mentality" - shame on you.
i wonder if you purposely misunderstand my statement. i am by no means saying that i hate any of those aforementioned nationalities. in fact, i find it awful that people treat me different after they find out that i am not one of those nationalities. in my opinion, stores should treat all customers as if they customers, and not give a different rate of service depending on the color of the skin, hair, or eyes.
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Old 15.06.2012, 11:43
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Define poor...
According to a lot of people on here - poor people have to exist on junk food such as take-away pizza, burgers and KFC.

That rather excludes Spanish and Indians and Turkish.
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Old 15.06.2012, 11:55
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i wonder if you purposely misunderstand my statement. i am by no means saying that i hate any of those aforementioned nationalities. in fact, i find it awful that people treat me different after they find out that i am not one of those nationalities. in my opinion, stores should treat all customers as if they customers, and not give a different rate of service depending on the color of the skin, hair, or eyes.

I for one understood what you meant right away.

I've had the same experience a few times - when people find out I'm Canadian and not just a ''gypsy Romanian'', they completely change their attitude. I've had a few people (doctors, sales clerks, headhunters) try to push me around up until I say something about Canada in perfect english

It's awful but it's true, they are sometimes more polite if they find out you come from ''the developed world''
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According to a lot of people on here - poor people have to exist on junk food such as take-away pizza, burgers and KFC.

That rather excludes Spanish and Indians and Turkish.
Silly me, here I was thinking of people who have to survive on less than 120k.
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Old 15.06.2012, 12:06
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oh my god, hat. this was just a podunky little store in east switzerland, if that happened to be on the BH i would have probably cried. and i love salvatore ferragamo.

and on a side note, i "love" how shocked people are when they hear that i'm an american and not turkish, indian, or spanish, or some other "poor" minority. it makes them behave a lot better. i love switzerland, but sometimes i hate that ugly SVP mentality...
Say what

I've just been informed I belong to a "poor" minority (sic).

Thanks for setting me straight.
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Define poor...
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i wonder if you purposely misunderstand my statement. i am by no means saying that i hate any of those aforementioned nationalities. in fact, i find it awful that people treat me different after they find out that i am not one of those nationalities. in my opinion, stores should treat all customers as if they customers, and not give a different rate of service depending on the color of the skin, hair, or eyes.
I did not purposely misuderstood your comment, but I find it highly inapropiate. If you wanted not to offend those nationalities, you achieved just the opposite.
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Re: accused of shoplifting, but not really?

My very own first groan .

I'll wear it with pride but incomprehesion: I didn't think my post was insulting, in contrast to yours to some minorities
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Old 15.06.2012, 12:57
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Re: accused of shoplifting, but not really?

The use of "" around "poor" is meant to emphasize that this may be the general point of view held by certain people, but that the poster wants to clearly indicate that this view is not shared.
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Re: accused of shoplifting, but not really?

Just to defend the OP, I think her use of quotes meant that she'd heard others say such things. In Zug, I heard a couple of people talk about "Yugos," my heritage is Eastern European so I was pretty offended too. But then I've heard British people at my job talk about Russians badly in the open! ? Also, my major in college was linguistics, did you know that the South gets its accent and culture from England? OP, I'm glad you spoke up for yourself, I never had such a thing happen to me thank g-d. There's nothing more difficult to subside as righteous anger, but hopefully you can forgive her internalized racism, it's common. She was being hypervigilant and trying to do her job.
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and on a side note, i "love" how shocked people are when they hear that i'm an american and not turkish, indian, or spanish, or some other "poor" minority.
You probably deserved the treatment. You get what you give, that is the rule of nature.

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i'm really way too polite, i know. i was raised in the south
Your attitude on this forum in no way is near polite, as you may be hurting sentiments of hundreds of EF'ites.

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and i also try really hard to change peoples' perceptions of "foreigners"
You seriously need to work hard on that "changing the perceptions of foreigners". Change begins at home.
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Re: accused of shoplifting, but not really?

Again, I think you are missing the fact that "" are used in written American English to convey irony...
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Re: accused of shoplifting, but not really?

Exactly, they are either quoting someone or an assumed other, and meant to convey irony.
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what a disgusting comment you have drop here, despising 4 nationalities is not going to change how you were treated in that shop. This comment make you look worse than the lady at the shop, think about it.

SVP are clearly not the only ones with an "ugly mentality" - shame on you.
I don't understand all the hate directed towards the OP here. She used quotes to indicate that she personally doesn't consider them "poor". Then a to indicate her disgust at the attitude. Then everyone jumps on her for being American and from the South.

Ease up, everyone.
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