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Old 25.05.2015, 22:49
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Re: Rich tight bottomed auslanders

Usually I just follow the locals and try to keep my a low profile but I always declare everything. It works both ways. Swiss call us greedy and cheap but look who's calling the kettle black. http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/schweiz/...story/10923738

Just a note of caution for anyone who doesn't read the Swiss/German papers. After reading this article I'm glad I stick to the rules, mindful to declare any and all I purchases from abroad. Apparently the Swiss customs are also cracking down on cross border pizza deliveries too. Anyone who wants a cheaper pizza for dinner now has to go pick it up at the border.

I don't see the pizza delivery guys here being anymore secure or financially better off than the ones across the border but perhaps I'm missing something.

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Old 26.05.2015, 01:25
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After reading this article I'm glad I stick to the rules, mindful to declare any and all I purchases from abroad.
Nothing to worry about then, I always stick to the rules. It's cheaper.
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Old 31.05.2015, 18:29
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Re: Rich tight bottomed auslanders

From my point of view we moved here and knew it was expensive ...but come on ASTRONOMICALLY expense it was the brochure should have said !
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Old 08.06.2015, 18:45
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Re: Rich tight bottomed auslanders

Some excellent POVs by several posters.

Being rich allows the luxury of buying better quality. I too, occasionally have some money on the side and decide to purchase a nice filet steak or two in Migros or Coop.

Unfortunately, I have to encounter more and more often, that I receive mediocre quality at premium prices. Meaning that me buying supposedly high quality products mainly benefits the margin of a producer/importer.

Beef filet steaks at CHF 100-120 per kilo... if we are looking at imported Argentinian beef, which costs EUR 50,- per kilo in Austria, we are talking about a premium, which by no means can be justified by price levels or wage levels (import handling & storage?).

Getting back to the OP's intention of buying SERVICES:
Also service quality in Switzerland is often terribly bad unless you are in the luxury segment. Meaning that if you are going for a men's haircut under CHF 50,- you almost expect the hairdresser to not do his/her utmost to please you. Unfortunately, in 3 out of 5 cases, I found this to be true.

The reason for this could be a level of complacency created by guaranteed wealth that can be dangerous for a high service oriented economy. Still, my experience in Austria shows that it can be done differently. Considerably better service at lower prices.

To sum it up: as long as you stay within the boundaries of legality, I see it as the consumer's obligation to buy on the free market and thus act as a corrective to a bloated economy.
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Old 08.06.2015, 20:03
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Re: Rich tight bottomed auslanders

I think EF member LIB (Lost In Board) can explain the situation better, especially as he is now leaving, and is not beholden to his employer....

I found out only recently why we have high prices in Coop, Migros, Manor, Landi etc. The reason is these shops are all contracted to buy their goods from Swiss middlemen, wholesalers.

I have seen reports in Swiss consumer magazines about the way farmers are cheated. The Swiss farmer could easily drive his trailer over the border and buy his fertiliser in Germany or France. But the foreign companies will not sell him the products he wants, they refer him back to the Swiss wholesalers, who are making fat profits.

Why are the Lidl and Aldi prices so low, for similar quality, here? Because Aldi and Lidl do not buy from these thieves, they import their products themselves, there are no cartels in the EU, because they are illegal there!
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Old 08.06.2015, 21:18
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Re: Rich tight bottomed auslanders

cheesey!! You got me all excited, because a rich auslšnder with a tight bottom is exactly what I'm looking for.

Back to OKC, thanks for nothing.
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Re: Rich tight bottomed auslanders

Lest we forget, about 7 years ago it was 3 CHF to the GBP. Zurich was comparably outrageously expensive it you weren't paid in Swissy. Right now though, imo Switzerland boasts some of the best purchasing power living here, and makes for very cost effective trips to the UK .
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Old 22.06.2015, 13:52
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Lest we forget, about 7 years ago it was 3 CHF to the GBP.
Not quite. 2.5 or so. The last time it was 3 or more was ~30 years ago
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Re: Rich tight bottomed auslanders

I stand corrected . Still, nothing to sneeze at. My 25 CHF pizza cost 10 quid 7 years ago, now its just over 17 - depending on your earning currency that changes life quality dramatically.
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Old 22.06.2015, 14:07
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I stand corrected . Still, nothing to sneeze at. My 25 CHF pizza cost 10 quid 7 years ago, now its just over 17 - depending on your earning currency that changes life quality dramatically.
Sure, and it also affects salaries, in that people coming over now will be demanding a lot less to get a visible equivalent than those who came over when they were different. On the minus side it means that those of us who came over back then are pretty much tied to the employer, as we'll never get the same salary if we move jobs; on the other hand, well, you know :-)
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Old 22.06.2015, 14:08
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Re: Rich tight bottomed auslanders

Yeah but Swiss pizza tastes well better than the crap you get in UK. Unless that's changed since I escaped.

Pizza express was quite nice though.
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Old 24.06.2015, 22:34
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It's an age old EF debate. Why can't I have everything exactly the way it was back where I come from, with out the crummy pay? I think a lot of people come here with the idea to get rich quick on the local-as-opposed-to-where-they-anglolly-come-from-currency, and return, without researching enough that locally, the costs of being here are, with in line of what they make.

I know back in the D, when Ford would send employees to live in France for 2 year stints, it was more like taking one for the team, or taking on a new experience. Whenever I talk to anyone I know(it's how we got here), about coming to CH, it's always this enticing idea to make fortune, but when it is "taken away" it's so much anger. What happens is this...
No one does enough research before the big cash Swiss cash grab. They come here with the idea they are golden, and will make a bundle so they can go back to their mother countries, but rounds of beer, talk the big talk, an be "rich". What they learn is, people get paid so much more, cause they themselves pay so much more, and they get pissed or grubby.

I don't care if I get groaned for that comment because it is one of the most true things I have said since being here. People think if in the UK or USA they make X dollars, do the exact same thing, and come to CH and make X3 or X4, that amount, they are suddenly bullet proof, and don't want to pay X3 or X4 for a loaf of bread. They would rather spend their whole weekend and drive to Germany or France to buy bread and furniture cheaper, to save a few francs, cause they are so annoyed at getting paid more and having to pay back more.

People are greedy. The one's that come here because they fell in love, and make a compromise, or went to school, or the love the country are one thing. Expats that think they hit the lotto jackpot, and want to hog it all to themselves are another. Whatever country they are in.

BINGO. I've been here 26 years. Very early on I learned to stop converting the price of say, a coffee from CAD to CHF, but rather to calculate it in terms of how long do I need to work to pay for that coffee. Summa Sumarium, I was doing better here than in Canada in terms of how many hours a week it took to cover my living costs.
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Re: Rich tight bottomed auslanders

Laughing now at the couple of idiots in this thread who were defending multinationals tax tricks without seeing that the world was changing
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No point linking to something that requires a subscription to view it
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Maybe that's where the advertised tight bottoms are, so subscription seems legit.
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