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Re: Threaten by company on legal action against posting on EF my bad experience with

I remember writing once a review, more like a complain because a company agreed on some services in writing and then they wanted to overcharge me. I would NEVER recommend that company and I did mention them on EF.
The owner started sending me emails saying he would take legal action, I did not take him seriously as I had (and still have) written proof of what he offered me so he backed off.

I know he asked me to have the thread closed as it allegedly had a negative impact on his business, I am not sure if it was closed or not but I let him talk to the admins.
If what you, OP, are saying is 100% true, then stand your ground but make sure you have proof of what you are saying.

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if i get the letter from their lawyer, whats next? any1 knows?
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Old 05.12.2013, 10:30
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i have wrote to one of the Admins a private message to delete the post if they can. no answers yet. about the story itself, as i said its true and i have evidence. even in an email when their boss wrote me 3 months back to ask if i paid 750 or 600, i wrote him the whole story as it was (here in EF) in an email.
Well then you will want this thread deleted too.

I personally wouldn't worry too much about it.

Looks like a small company throwing it's weight around to try and bully someone they provided poor service into a corner. If what you say is true and you have proof then fight your corner. Don't roll over by getting threads deleted, posting any retractions and walking away with you tail between your legs allowing the company to go on providing bad service.

A decent company would post their rebuttal, stating their facts of the situation, apologise for your incidents of poor service and offer compromise whilst trying to come out of it looking like a moral decent company who care for their customers.

This approach puts clients off more than a bad service, knowing talking about an bad service leads to the budget company potentially suing you.

Stick to your guns I say.
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i have wrote to one of the Admins a private message to delete the post if they can. no answers yet.
If you use the "report post" button in the top right it will go to all the mods, not just one who may be out of the country at the moment...

FWIW I Think we can all learn a lesson here - naming names might be acceptable in the context of a detailed description, but making accusation such as we've seen recently, with "scam" "cheat" "fraud" in big letters alongside the company name is always likely to lead to trouble.
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Please do not play god or judge other posts as well then!

Even if I did not read the OP's post my comments were related and relevant.

Who are you to judge that?
Thank you for the Groan to my post. I'm glad you know i'm talking about you.

I am no more better than anyone in this EF except able to judging people like you who is so mean to most people putting post here and BS a bunch of stuff without even reading the case of OP.

why don't you start the thread about "general law and common sense" elsewhere.

My last post here as I don't even want to spend time judging people like you. I am sure most of them just ignore your BS. Feel sorry for you! Waste of my time!
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Re: Threaten by company on legal action against posting on EF my bad experience with

How did that company become aware of what you said here, I'd like to know. Big companies have trackers- but not small local ones. So are they members of EF- is it a Swiss Company? Or did someone here 'snitch' you to them?
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Old 05.12.2013, 11:08
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How did that company become aware of what you said here, I'd like to know. Big companies have trackers- but not small local ones. So are they members of EF- is it a Swiss Company? Or did someone here 'snitch' you to them?
I would say self-Googling may have brought up the thread. Which was posted in May and not replied to and is probably somewhere in EF's large intestine.....
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Well then you will want this thread deleted too.

I personally wouldn't worry too much about it.

Looks like a small company throwing it's weight around to try and bully someone they provided poor service into a corner. If what you say is true and you have proof then fight your corner. Don't roll over by getting threads deleted, posting any retractions and walking away with you tail between your legs allowing the company to go on providing bad service.

A decent company would post their rebuttal, stating their facts of the situation, apologise for your incidents of poor service and offer compromise whilst trying to come out of it looking like a moral decent company who care for their customers.

This approach puts clients off more than a bad service, knowing talking about an bad service leads to the budget company potentially suing you.

Stick to your guns I say.
agree with you, but i dont have the time nor the money to spend on this really. plus i dont know much of swiss law, so thats my weak point. thats why i posted it here.
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How did that company become aware of what you said here, I'd like to know. Big companies have trackers- but not small local ones. So are they members of EF- is it a Swiss Company? Or did someone here 'snitch' you to them?
They could have google their name and found it in the results.
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Old 05.12.2013, 11:16
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agree with you, but i dont have the time nor the money to spend on this really. plus i dont know much of swiss law, so thats my weak point. thats why i posted it here.
I would put a large bet on it that the company do not have the time or money for the fight either.

They are likely just leaning some weight on you, as a somewhat seemingly powerless individual, to see if you will fold and take action to remove the critique. Hence why they have not gone the official route yet and sent just an aggressive serious sound letter with no real weight.

I would be very surprised if they want to invest time and money in the legal issues of a case that could go either way.
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Re: Threaten by company on legal action against posting on EF my bad experience with

Sadly this is the MO of many companies, they offer a crap service and when people complain they threaten to sue.

I had a similar issue in the past with a restaurant review " remove the review or we will sue" it was bluff and nothing happened.

If your facts are in order and all is truthful and documented AND you have an understanding of the law I would give them anArkell and Pressdram response but thats me.
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Long out of topic bullshit
What's funny is that someone who-used-to-be-wise-not-so-long-ago once told me:

"Please do not play God or Judge to every others EF comments and giving so mean criticism to others"...

Funny that the same advice does not apply to you.

PS: have you ever heard about "PM"?

Oh no, wait, you wanted to start a witch hunt, wiiitch, burn the wiitch... By the way, we're suppose to have evolved intellectually since the medieval time, we don't do that anymore...

PS2: I could have PM you myself, but both our topics will be deleted anyway, so let's not bother.

PS3: thanks to see that you actually had a wonderful contribution to the op's topic..............not.
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PS: have you ever heard about "PM"?
well, have you?
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What's funny is that someone who-used-to-be-wise-not-so-long-ago once told me:

"Please do not play God or Judge to every others EF comments and giving so mean criticism to others"...

Funny that the same advice does not apply to you.

PS: have you ever heard about "PM"?

Oh no, wait, you wanted to start a witch hunt, wiiitch, burn the wiitch... By the way, we're suppose to have evolved intellectually since the medieval time, we don't do that anymore...

PS2: I could have PM you myself, but both our topics will be deleted anyway, so let's not bother.

PS3: thanks to see that you actually had a wonderful contribution to the op's topic..............not.
Gosh, you are so hormonal...
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well, have you?
That's called reading properly:

PS2: I could have PM you myself, but both our topics will be deleted anyway, so let's not bother.

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I will help you to understand-

I wrote:
There is a massive difference between "feedback", facts and defamation.

I haven't looked at the OP story, so I won't comment on it-
Then your comment is totally worthless. Sue me.

OP - sending you an email is just the company's way of saying "we're a shit company, the review is valid, but we'll send an email and try to scare them into removing their bad comments about us". If they were serious then they would have sent a registered letter with very precise consequences which you could then use to instruct your own lawyer, should you so wish.

Ignore it.
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Re: Threaten by company on legal action against posting on EF my bad experience with

Hi Dariush,

The law says it is not defamation as long as it is true, or as long as what your are saying can be perceived as the truth from your point of view.

But since they got a lawyer involved, even if they are just trying to scare you, you just get legal insurance if you dont have it, and/or check if your Gemeinde has a free lawyer advice.

if you can speak german, here is the law, art. 173 and 176
http://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifie...0000/311.0.pdf

I tried looking at your post but it looks like it's been deleted...
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Would this be the kind of thing the Mietverband/Asloca would advise with?
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If you use the "report post" button in the top right it will go to all the mods, not just one who may be out of the country at the moment...

FWIW I Think we can all learn a lesson here - naming names might be acceptable in the context of a detailed description, but making accusation such as we've seen recently, with "scam" "cheat" "fraud" in big letters alongside the company name is always likely to lead to trouble.
This is a huge mistake. The thread, which someone (you?) appears to have just deleted - which is against all the unwritten rules you mods have - did no such thing.

Why did you delete it exactly?

What precedent have you now set as to what can and can not be deleted?

Who contacted you to ask for it to be deleted?

In the past, mods have refused to delete threads unless spam. What new rule are you following?
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