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Wrong.

As has been pointed out, they are members of the same family, with a similar flavour, but celeriac has a big bulbous root which is the part you use, throwing the stalks/leaves away, whereas celery does not have a separate root ball at all, and it's the stalks that are used.
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Re: Coriander Ruins My Life!

I find it amusing that on the OP of this thread alone, I got my first bunch of groans! Yay!

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Wrong.

As has been pointed out, they are members of the same family, with a similar flavour, but celeriac has a big bulbous root which is the part you use, throwing the stalks/leaves away, whereas celery does not have a separate root ball at all, and it's the stalks that are used.
Spot on. Although they are from the same family and the taste is very similar they are definitely not the same. I personally prefer celery to eat raw because of the crunch and celeriac in stews etc.
Onions and garlic are from the same family as each other but nobody would say that they were the same.
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Wrong.

As has been pointed out, they are members of the same family, with a similar flavour, but celeriac has a big bulbous root which is the part you use, throwing the stalks/leaves away, whereas celery does not have a separate root ball at all, and it's the stalks that are used.
Which means that CELERY / SELLERIE is the stuff useed for salads

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Re: Coriander Ruins My Life!

Forget for a moment about coriander and celery.

Where, oh where can I find lovage? It is Liebstöckel in German. (Levisticum officinale)
I want to cook some traditional stuff for some friend and I kind of prefer to use the original ingredients (he might hate it, who knows..). Haven't seen it in Switzerland yet. An Austrian colleague told me I could find it over there, but really....am not gonna go out of my way.
So, is there someone who could tell me where can I find Liebstöckel?
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Which means that CELERY / SELLERIE is the stuff useed for salads

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If you put up a question to 10 English speakers, you get at least 20 contradictory replies !!
You're like a dog with a bone aren't you?
One might, as you so rightly say, make a salad with celery BUT most grated celery salad is made with celeriac.
Anjela's picture is almost certainly celeriac.
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Where, oh where can I find lovage? It is Liebstöckel in German. (Levisticum officinale)
"Lovage" in English
"Liebstöckel" in German
and "Maggikraut" in Swiss!

Maybe that'll help.

I don't know from the top of my head where you can find it. I never used it myself, but I remember it from my grandmothers garden where she used to plant and grow it herself.

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Which means that CELERY / SELLERIE is the stuff useed for salads

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Both celery and celeriac can be used in salads but in different ways.

If using celery then then the stalks are usually just chopped and put into mixed salads or with apples, walnuts , raisins etc or cut into batons and used to dip into sauces.
If using celeriac then it's usually grated and mixed with some kind of sauce/mayo/dressing. This is what you would call 'celery' salad here I guess.

In my experience in the UK though celeriac is more often used cooked in stews and soups and celery is used for salads.
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Both celery and celeriac can be used in salads but in different ways.

If using celery then then the stalks are usually just chopped and put into mixed salads or with apples, walnuts , raisins etc or cut into batons and used to dip into sauces.
If using celeriac then it's usually grated and mixed with some kind of sauce/mayo/dressing. This is what you would call 'celery' salad here I guess.

In my experience in the UK though celeriac is more often used cooked in stews and soups and celery is used for salads.


Ooooh so that what I use as "Sellerie" is "celeriac" in English. While those apéro-batons which I also love, are "celery" .

So that the German term Sellerie-Salat should be translated as "Celeriac-Salad" ?

This would make sense, as the batons differ in taste clearly.
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Re: Coriander Ruins My Life!

Any celery under 120,000 CHF isn't worth considering.
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Ooooh so that what I use as "Sellerie" is "celeriac" in English. While those apéro-batons which I also love, are "celery" .

So that the German term Sellerie-Salat should be translated as "Celeriac-Salad" ?

This would make sense, as the batons differ in taste clearly.
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I find it amusing that on the OP of this thread alone, I got my first bunch of groans! Yay!
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Re: Coriander Ruins My Life!

Coriander serves no earthly purpose and should be eradicated from the planet. My mother was Sri Lankan, and put the stuff in virtually everything she cooked, making my childhood a living hell. As an adult, I am pleased to be able to enforce a no-coriander rule in my own home, and when eating out I always ask if a particular dish might contain the Green Evil. If it shows up anyway, I gag dramatically and feign death. Not that I feel strongly about it, or anything.
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"Lovage" in English
"Liebstöckel" in German
and "Maggikraut" in Swiss!

Maybe that'll help.

I don't know from the top of my head where you can find it. I never used it myself, but I remember it from my grandmothers garden where she used to plant and grow it herself.

Good Luck!
You can find Lovage at any garden center in the summer - such as the Coop B/H - and at larger ones all year round.

I planted a small pot in my herb garden some years ago - and it keeps growing and growing and growing. No matter how much I use, no matter how much I cut it back, no matter how I neglect it, no matter how hard I try to kill it - it keeps growing and growing and growing. Neighbors now hide when they see me coming, for fear that I may be bringing them a basket of lovage.

Lovage is the kudzu of Switzerland.
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Re: Coriander Ruins My Life!

i can't eat a bowl of pho or guacamole without coriander. i love it so much i got some seeds to grow this past christmas.

an added benefit is that it helps mercury detox for when you have to change out an old silver filling.
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You can find Lovage at any garden center in the summer - such as the Coop B/H - and at larger ones all year round.

I planted a small pot in my herb garden some years ago - and it keeps growing and growing and growing. No matter how much I use, no matter how much I cut it back, no matter how I neglect it, no matter how hard I try to kill it - it keeps growing and growing and growing. Neighbors now hide when they see me coming, for fear that I may be bringing them a basket of lovage.

Lovage is the kudzu of Switzerland.
i hate to bring this up again, but you could use the fine inner leaves of green celery in place of lovage, or even a few celery seeds, as the taste is somewhat similar
Borrage is another one of the herbs that pops up everywhere in a garden....unless it's the dreaded Japanese knotweed you've got there, Meloncollie
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Coriander serves no earthly purpose and should be eradicated from the planet. My mother was Sri Lankan, and put the stuff in virtually everything she cooked, making my childhood a living hell. As an adult, I am pleased to be able to enforce a no-coriander rule in my own home, and when eating out I always ask if a particular dish might contain the Green Evil. If it shows up anyway, I gag dramatically and feign death. Not that I feel strongly about it, or anything.
The quantities your mum used were possibly a bit overdone.

But Koriander and Kardamom and soy sauce and garlic and onions and curries and olive oil improve the quality of the meal, quality and joy of life and are healthy

When Koriander and Kardamom made it to Switzerland some 300 to 500 years ago, both were so very much expensive that only rich people could afford them, and only once per year. This was why housewifes of rich chaps started to use them in December for their Wiehnachts-Guetzli
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The quantities your mum used were possibly a bit overdone.

But Koriander and Kardamom and soy sauce and garlic and onions and curries and olive oil improve the quality of the meal, quality and joy of life and are healthy

When Koriander and Kardamom made it to Switzerland some 300 to 500 years ago, both were so very much expensive that only rich people could afford them, and only once per year. This was why housewifes of rich chaps started to use them in December for their Wiehnachts-Guetzli
Similar to salt in England in the late15th century where people were seated above or below the salt, at the dining table, according to their social rank.
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Re: Coriander Ruins My Life!

I used to really dislike coriander, but over the years, I tolerated it, and now I like it. It's great in stews and curries.
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Re: Coriander Ruins My Life!

I love a light sprinkling of finely chopped fresh coriander leaves on Indian curries, tandoori chicken, or mixed in with yoghurt-raita together with chopped cucumber, onion, tomato, garlic and mint leaves. Like it so much that I have spent quite some time trying to grow coriander in a pot... but failed. It is a difficult plant to grow, and goes to flower/seed quickly then dies. Lucky we have a thai shop down the road which sells it in bundles.
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