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Old 15.04.2014, 11:45
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I think you have to expect this when selling goods on an internet forum.
I agree if you're trying to flog something for outrageous prices but if say something is within range and available immediately I think to say you can buy it cheaper is bad manners and destructive
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Next purchase should be a new keyboard that's space bar works

I would settle for akeyboard that has the letters Z and Y in the correct location ;-) then maybe Icould focus more on hitting the space bar instead of the correct letters
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Old 15.04.2014, 11:57
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Re: Bad manners from Forum members

I have to agree with OP, they could tell you you are too far and cancel the appointment. I have had people make appointments and not show up, wanting me to ship free items and then not wanting to pay for postage (WTF???) etc etc
I had a weird experience trying to buy a cupboard in another forum, even though I confirmed I would buy it, the seller wanted to confirm day of pick up (I had said I needed to talk to OH) after the third time in 2 hours, I decided to let it go...She had another buyer so it was good but it was a bit annoying to have someone insist on information I could not get till I got home...*sigh*
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When I contact them to check if something has happened/they are lost the usual response is "I just realized you live too far away for me to travel to you". ...

I assumed that people who are smart enough to remember a username and password would have the sense to check google maps?
He's just checking.
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Re: Bad manners from Forum members

Bad manners are not just found here.

With Ricardo you can ask a question to the seller and they can also just ignore you. I posted a question on two items recently and neither seller replied. The seller can reply privately or post the question and their reply.

If you bought something on Ricardo and didn't show up, you would be given negative comments which are open for all members to read.

What annoys me greatly on EF are those who ask about an item, post on the thread, send a PM, I reply and they just ignore me. This is just plain rude.

I always try to offer things here first but my location is a deterrent to many, unless someone is planning on shopping in Germany. Then I am on the way.

I have bought items offered on EF and driven some distance because it was worth the trip. It was an item which could not be shipped.

When possible I have also offered alternate pick up locations and that has been very useful. I am willing to ship items as long as a buyer is willing to pay postage.

As for the free stuff, I refuse to deliver these items. I have done well rehoming these items and finding someone who will pick them up.
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Old 15.04.2014, 15:23
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Re: Bad manners from Forum members

I too have waited in all day for someone to pick up a free item, only for them not to turn up and not even have the courtesy to let me know they weren't coming. If I'd had a real name and address, I'd have been tempted to bill them for my time

It's not just "buyers" though; someone promised us a patio table and chairs at new year; I kept badgering them to confirm a date for us to pick up, kept getting put off and put off, only for them ultimately to tell us "oh we had to leave the country and ran out of time". So WTF happened to the table and chairs? We were just waiting for a time to collect them and they'd have been out of the vendor's hair
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Old 15.04.2014, 16:17
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I guess I've been lucky then. I've bought loads of stuff on Ricardo and also flogged a couple of items and never had any negative experiences wrth mentioning. I've also given some furniture away free on the EF, and that was no hassle either. I did have some time wasters send me Pm's, but it was pretty clear from the beginning that they weren't really interested and seeing other people were interested too, I wrote back to the time wasters courteously but in a way that discouraged further interest.
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Re: Bad manners from Forum members

I recently bought some flowerpots and vases from someone in Lausanne.
The only negative aspect of it was that the EF member was leaving Switzerland that very week after many years here, and I was left feeling sad that we hadn't met before because we seemed to have many things in common.
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(whoa spacially gets spell checked to specially)
that'll be 'cos you want spatially not spacially....though I've only just located my spatial skills
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that'll be 'cos you want spatially not spacially...)
Hah... didn't notice that earlier.
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Old 15.04.2014, 21:24
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I recently bought some flowerpots and vases from someone in Lausanne.
The only negative aspect of it was that the EF member was leaving Switzerland that very week after many years here, and I was left feeling sad that we hadn't met before because we seemed to have many things in common.
Yeah, it's funny that. I recently bought something from a member and it turned out he was leaving - nice guy. We had coffee and a chat once the deal was concluded, and after I felt it was a shame he was leaving as I wouldn't get to know him further.

Anyway

When it comes to buying things from I generally think like this:-

Is it what I want at the price I'm prepared to pay?

Where is it, and if I make the journey is it still worthwhile and good value? Not being able to understand how to read a map or failure to understand the scale is no excuse. If you really can't then don't make an offer for stuff that's outside of your normal area of known navigation.

How long has the seller been a member here, and how many posts - the quantity of either dictates how far I'm prepared to travel, or how much money I'm prepared to risk in the case of delivery by post - it's discriminatory I know but...

For stuff that's going to be posted to you set a limit of the amount of money you can comfortably lose should everything go pear shaped - for me that's up to 200.

Once you've considered everything above only then should you make an offer, and then be committed to that offer.

There's really no excuse for being a total no show on the day that the transaction should take place, and it just smacks of arrogant expat if you don't show up. At least cancel a couple of days beforehand if you change your mind.
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Old 15.04.2014, 22:35
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So, did you go to Zurich HB? And gift wrap the free item?


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Two months ago I advertised an item for free on EF (baby related stuff). Note the word 'free'. I had one person contact me and I agreed that the item was theirs because they were the first to respond to the ad. I then had to deal with a bunch of back and forth on answering questions about the item (it's bloomin' free not a big ticket purchase you're making!). After all that they actually had the gall to ask if I could meet them at Zurich HB and deliver the item to them on their way home for work.
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Old 15.04.2014, 22:43
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Well, as others have said, as far as selling goes you get it pretty much everywhere. Sometimes it can be hard to turn the other cheek too..
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If in the same city would dropping stuff at the buyer's house be a good idea? Although the buyer could pretend to be away when you turn up.
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Old 16.04.2014, 09:17
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Yeah, it's funny that. I recently bought something from a member and it turned out he was leaving - nice guy. We had coffee and a chat once the deal was concluded, and after I felt it was a shame he was leaving as I wouldn't get to know him further.

Anyway

When it comes to buying things from I generally think like this:-

Is it what I want at the price I'm prepared to pay?

Where is it, and if I make the journey is it still worthwhile and good value? Not being able to understand how to read a map or failure to understand the scale is no excuse. If you really can't then don't make an offer for stuff that's outside of your normal area of known navigation.

How long has the seller been a member here, and how many posts - the quantity of either dictates how far I'm prepared to travel, or how much money I'm prepared to risk in the case of delivery by post - it's discriminatory I know but...

For stuff that's going to be posted to you set a limit of the amount of money you can comfortably lose should everything go pear shaped - for me that's up to 200.

Once you've considered everything above only then should you make an offer, and then be committed to that offer.

There's really no excuse for being a total no show on the day that the transaction should take place, and it just smacks of arrogant expat if you don't show up. At least cancel a couple of days beforehand if you change your mind.
This really shouldn't be that hard. And yet, as I discovered long ago, if you:

1. Are a person of your word.
2. Show up on time.
3. Finish your work.
4. Inform people immediately if any of the above won't happen

Then you are a hero, not, as I was raised to believe, a "minimally competent human being," but bloody hero.

Note for the future - if I am selling in the marketplace, then any offer from Slaphead immediately jumps to the front of the line.
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Old 16.04.2014, 09:18
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If in the same city would dropping stuff at the buyer's house be a good idea? Although the buyer could pretend to be away when you turn up.
This happened to me once. I left everything in a pile at the door of their apartment building. I was delivering free furniture, and they weren't there. I figured they could deal with it.
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Add me to the list of unhappy members. I'm currently selling a bedsofa on EF and the asking price is 40 chf. The bedsofa is worth a few hundreds, and the asking price is simply to cover the fuel and at least buy me a coke as I keep it in a storage in Zurich and I live somewhere else.

Buyer 1: interested, asks me a few questions and complains that the covers for the sofa are so much more expensive in CH than in US. Calls me "my friend" when telling me that the price is too high considering the price difference in the covers between CH and US. WTF? Not my problem - buy it from the US then. Tells me that he wants it still and we agreed on meeting on an evening. He then tells me a few hours before that it's raining so he doesn't feel like picking it up. Okay, forget about it then. 14 emails for nothing.

Buyer 2: interested, I'm very clear with my situation on the distance/time that I need to get to the storage. I work very early on mornings so I need my early bed time in the evenings but I agree on meeting at 20:30. On the day, exactly at 20:30, he tells me that he will be late. I ask him how much and he says "half an hour, maybe 45 minutes". Okay, I agree on waiting for him at the storage where there is nothing else to do. After working 12 hours and getting to the storage in time, he never calls or shows up. I end up coming home late at night and getting less sleep due to this d*****bag that simply thinks that his world orbits around his own bellybutton.

WTF is wrong with people? Where is the respect and the common sense or habits? I'm losing faith in humanity. I will make one last try with the bed sofa, otherwise I will literally throw it out on the street and forget about it.

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Old 16.04.2014, 10:31
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Sometimes methniks that is the best option, the easiest one at leat.
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Old 16.04.2014, 10:59
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I once cycled 12Km (round trip) when selling some thing for 10chf. (My plan was to cycle to the pool anyways)
I had the day off and that person was working.

The morning of delivery it was raining, however, when I spoke to the buyer I told them even though I wasn't going to go to the pool any more I would still cycle there so we could meet for pick up.

She didn't show up! I got a message maybe 2 hours later saying "oh sorry lunch ran over so a meeting started late"
Are you kidding me. You couldn't have accessed your phone during lunch no?

I was a little peeved that day.
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I would settle for akeyboard that has the letters Z and Y in the correct location ;-) then maybe Icould focus more on hitting the space bar instead of the correct letters
Digitec stock numerous US/UK layout keyboards, you live in Wohlen afterall..
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