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Old 09.12.2014, 22:23
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death rate per 10 billion vehicle-km (2012):

CH: 49 (here in CH: only private vehicle-km are counted!)
Germany: 49
Hypothesis: Low speed limits, excessive fines and sneaky enforcement tactics do not improve road safety.

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Rules of Swiss Driving

1. There are no rules
2. See rule 1

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Less would be more There are so many rules and regulations that few People (some lawyers and some specialists) have a clue which means that everybody makes his own rules
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Hypothesis: Low speed limits, excessive fines and sneaky enforcement tactics do not improve road safety.

Free tranquilizers should be distributed to the population in general and to the motorists in particular, possibly together with a Gratis Cervelat
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Old 10.12.2014, 08:16
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Free tranquilizers should be distributed to the population in general and to the motorists in particular
God forbid! Most Swiss drivers are far too sleepy and inattentive already.

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possibly together with a Gratis Cervelat
I strongly prefer a nice Kalbsbratwurst.
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At least they know how to behave on the Autobahn. Probably because those who don't have already been weeded out by being hit by an Audi or BMW coming from behind at 240 kph!
Erm from last weekend experience DE driving standards are dropping.

Some twat decided to pull out on me doing roughly 130kph when I'm at 230kph.

Another section which I was just about holding 240kph for safety (road bent) and a dickhead in a Camero is tailgating me? I had no free space on the inside lane. Like WTF? Leave a gap you idiot.

I accelerated to 250+ and that seemed to get him to back off. Then 2 minutes later he slows down and pulls into the inside lane and I notice a "inflatable blond" in the passenger seat. Erm no I don't want a race. It's a road not a racetrack.

Coming back into CH felt like doing 30kph, there is no reason why some sections of CH autobahn should not have 140/150 limits (or higher).
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Another section which I was just about holding 240kph for safety (road bent) and a dickhead in a Camero is tailgating me? I had no free space on the inside lane. Like WTF? Leave a gap you idiot.

I accelerated to 250+ and that seemed to get him to back off. Then 2 minutes later he slows down and pulls into the inside lane and I notice a "inflatable blond" in the passenger seat. Erm no I don't want a race. It's a road not a racetrack.
Only 250??

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Some twat decided to pull out on me doing roughly 130kph when I'm at 230kph.
ITYF that's your fault, not his If you're seriously doing that sort of speed with traffic in the inside lane of two, then there's no question about who the twat is
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Erm from last weekend experience DE driving standards are dropping.

Some twat decided to pull out on me doing roughly 130kph when I'm at 230kph.

Another section which I was just about holding 240kph for safety (road bent) and a dickhead in a Camero is tailgating me? I had no free space on the inside lane. Like WTF? Leave a gap you idiot.

I accelerated to 250+ and that seemed to get him to back off. Then 2 minutes later he slows down and pulls into the inside lane and I notice a "inflatable blond" in the passenger seat. Erm no I don't want a race. It's a road not a racetrack.

Coming back into CH felt like doing 30kph, there is no reason why some sections of CH autobahn should not have 140/150 limits (or higher).
What car did you drive?
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Old 10.12.2014, 14:55
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And by the way, counterintuitively the motorways are by far the most safest streets, anywhere in the (developed) world!
One would expect that. No pedestrians, steady speeds (mostly), roads are fenced so no wildlife can come in, mostly excellent visibility, and mostly straight.

In a speed limited motorway a car can get by without even braking under normal circumstances. On quiet nights I've done GNV-ZH only with cruise control.
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Old 10.12.2014, 17:45
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ITYF that's your fault, not his If you're seriously doing that sort of speed with traffic in the inside lane of two, then there's no question about who the twat is
Not really there were x2 cars in visible distance on the inside lane this idiot was 500m from the car in front and pulled out to overtake.
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Only 250??

I think you'll find my penis is much bigger
With your upcoming 6" extension surgery? Hope that goes well for you. Ask your misses she'll know.

It's the reason why I bought this car. DE autobahn.

http://www.great-cars.co.uk/features...-s-type-r.html

It's not a Lambo but it's mine I own it all and f all to a loan company.

Oh and the limiter was removed from the car some time ago. Yes this is declared before someone moans.

0-60mph in 5.3 seconds and a top speed electronically limited to 155mph should be enough for most.

It wasn't, I changed this, back to my smoking jacket and pipe. Next tweak probably lower supercharger pulley but that's another subject.
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Old 10.12.2014, 18:01
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Re: Driving on CH motorways

I avoid cars with limiters - they spoil the fun.

5.3s does sound jolly slow though

Are you on income support? I thought even the poorest person living in Switzerland had something that does it under 5s

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Just had a look on Autoscout - Emil Frey have an ab platz one that is up for 10,500chf - nice! Leggy ones start around 5/6k. Both XJ and XK versions are available around the same price - albeit a year or so older and with the lower spec engine. (363 vs 396ps)

It gets the thumbs up from me.

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I avoid cars with limiters - they spoil the fun.

5.3s does sound jolly slow though

Are you on income support? I thought even the poorest person living in Switzerland had something that does it under 5s
Yes I'm poor, please donate towards my Ferrari 458 + speeding ticket fund.

I know lower pulley change will fix that sub 5, then again it's mid / top end I'm interested in not burn outs or shredding a set of tyres at each set of lights.

It's very much a "sleeper" as the Americans would call it. Looks like a old man's car and has two side to it, gentle and quiet but the other side you're sitting on a volcano that deserves a lot of respect it can and will kill people that are not careful. The wife has the XKR it's a lot more skittish back end flips out easily. Also the brakes are rubbish on the XKR.
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Old 10.12.2014, 18:18
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I know lower pulley change will fix that sub 5, then again it's mid / top end I'm interested in not burn outs or shredding a set of tyres at each set of lights.
It actually takes quite a bit of effort to break traction - which I was surprised about. I did manage it in Stuttgart, where encouraged by a number of rather excitable Germans, I re-marked the #14 the #11
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It actually takes quite a bit of effort to break traction - which I was surprised about. I did manage it in Stuttgart, where encouraged by a number of rather excitable Germans, I re-marked the #14 the #11


x3 bags of concrete in the boot is a temporary fix to traction issues.

Conti 5p's break traction on both the STR and XKR pulling away from lights given a reasonable amount of right foot.

N.b. Obviously where road conditions allow this to be practised safely.
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N.b. Obviously where road conditions allow this to be practised safely.
Of course. And weather conditions, too, naturally.
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Of course. And weather conditions, too, naturally.
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I avoid cars with limiters - they spoil the fun.

5.3s does sound jolly slow though

Are you on income support? I thought even the poorest person living in Switzerland had something that does it under 5s
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Im getting mad about driving on CH motorways. It looks to me that in general drivers here can't drive in a normal way. My observations are following:

1. If you want to overtake car they slightly speed up
2. Drivers barley use right line
3. Drivers change lines in unexpected way
4. Drivers brake in unexpected way

What are your observations?
Drivers do not use indicators at all! They think that if the lane is designated to make a turn the indicator is not obligatory. Then they go to France and create chaos on the roads. Additionally, drivers from the Geneva canton seem to be the worst case (especially on motorways). It is especially annoying when you use a cruise control and leave safe space behind the cat in front. They will use this to overtake you, put they car right in front of yours and then brake slightly because the overtaking took them over the speed limit... I flash the hell out of such individuals ;>
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Coming back into CH felt like doing 30kph, there is no reason why some sections of CH autobahn should not have 140/150 limits (or higher).
Sound and air pollution perhaps?!
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