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Driving on CH motorways

Im getting mad about driving on CH motorways. It looks to me that in general drivers here can't drive in a normal way. My observations are following:

1. If you want to overtake car they slightly speed up
2. Drivers barley use right line
3. Drivers change lines in unexpected way
4. Drivers brake in unexpected way

What are your observations?
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Re: Driving on CH motorways

Have you driven in Italy?
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Re: Driving on CH motorways

Sure I did. In my oppinion in IT or DE traffic is much more fluent. Drivers are more "flexible"
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Im getting mad about driving on CH motorways. It looks to me that in general drivers here can't drive in a normal way. My observations are following:

1. If you want to overtake car they slightly speed up
2. Drivers barley use right line
3. Drivers change lines in unexpected way
4. Drivers brake in unexpected way

What are your observations?
No better or worse than anywhere else I've driven (including Italy). There's nothing you can do about other people's driving except keep out of their way.

Put on some nice, calming music, leave plenty of time for your trip and just go with the flow.
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Old 28.05.2014, 16:01
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Re: Driving on CH motorways

^ What she said.

There are good and bad drivers everywhere and I don't find them to be any worse here than anywhere else in Europe.
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Re: Driving on CH motorways

Compared to the UK I think the motorway here is fantastic!!

Especially driving in the correct lane. Some people are actually taught to "just stick to the middle lane" on the motorway.
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I will follow Sandgrounder recomendation or just change car to train :- )
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Sure I did. In my oppinion in IT or DE traffic is much more fluent. Drivers are more "flexible"
You forgot having somebody almost riding your rear end here. So often. Makes me smile. It's like the inability to wait in line for one's turn. Or waiting to let people get off the train/bus/tram.
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Re: Driving on CH motorways

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Im getting mad about driving on CH motorways. It looks to me that in general drivers here can't drive in a normal way. My observations are following:

1. If you want to overtake car they slightly speed up
2. Drivers barley use right line
3. Drivers change lines in unexpected way
4. Drivers brake in unexpected way

What are your observations?
This could have been written about the UK.

Edit....except for right lane, read left.

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Old 28.05.2014, 16:06
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I will follow Sandgrounder recomendation or just change car to train :- )
Make sure you come back and tell us about bags on seats and impatient "Swiss people" blocking the door, impeding exit and entrance...

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Old 28.05.2014, 16:14
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Re: Driving on CH motorways

I have driven 20 years in the UK and just a few days in CH. On the autobahn last week in heavy rain I saw 2 incidents of what I consider to be the most dangerous driving I have ever seen.

This doesn't mean all CH drivers are idiots, just that those 2 were. I am more careful now having seen them though.
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Re: Driving on CH motorways

I think I need some groans.

It is simple: Too many expats on the road who do not know the rules.
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Old 28.05.2014, 16:27
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I think I need some groans.

It is simple: Too many expats on the road who do not know the rules.
This should head more towards the Repercussion of the last vote thread, heh. Isn't it always them foreigners. Or, it's at least as bad/good outside? Wonderful come backs.

( you wrong, btw, it's the Valaisans)
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Old 28.05.2014, 16:36
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( you wrong, btw, it's the Valaisans)
If they are driving in what they call the üsser schwiiz, then they are expats too.
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Re: Driving on CH motorways

my impression of the OP
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If they are driving in what they call the üsser schwiiz, then they are expats too.
I was never strong at discrimination, so will have to take your word for that

I think so far the most dangerous in terms of driving is this weird phenomenon - there are moments when it's not safe to slow down. I have witnessed too often this slowing down to minimum knee jerk reaction, be it wanting to see well enough if there is an accident off the road, or traffic gets a tiny bit thicker, or, gasp, it starts to rain. Sometimes it is plain safer to keep moving, especially if you get somebody glued to your trunk.

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Re: Driving on CH motorways

Driving in the US/Canada/Australia/Europe is easy.

Driving in Africa on the other hand.

Well.

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( you wrong, btw, it's the Valaisans)
Actually you are also wrong. They know the law (more or less). They just don't care about it very much
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Actually you are also wrong. They know the law (more or less). They just don't care about it very much
Pirates. They are good, dare more while being safe. I was joking. Driving in Valais will turn any car noob into a pro after a little bit. The folks who keep rolling off the Balcon du Jura are stressed French frontaliers. It's really sad.
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Re: Driving on CH motorways

Well, I've driven in Cyprus for years and then the Swiss motorways seem like heaven!

However, Germany is still my favorite country to drive; people make far less sudden or dangerous moves on the roads (and if it happens, 9 out of 10 times it's a Dutch or French car).
In Switzerland I'm always wary of people making moves that you wouldn't expect, like breaking when there is absolutely nothing in front of them, or suddenly changing lanes when you want to pass them. It doesn't happen constantly, but definitely more than in Germany in my opinion.
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