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Old 18.09.2008, 13:39
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Re: Migros and COOP - Low quality explained...

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Indeed, I stopped buying bread in the coop after maybe the 10th loaf. It is utter rubbish and I don't understand how they sell enough of it that they keep selling it. If I have to buy bread from a supermarket then it has to be from Migros. Preferably one where the bakery is in the shop.
Try the Brot des Monates for September. I bought some during a last dash round Coop on Monday and wasn't really paying attention to what I was buying (just needed to grab some bread quick before running for the train) and it was totally fabulous. Crispy crust (not hard and chewy) and the inside was deliciously soft and springy and tasted lovely.
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Old 18.09.2008, 14:56
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A couple of years ago I would've agreed. I don't know if bread in Coop is really frozen. I had to eat frozen bread for a couple of years and it tasted totally different.
The lump of ice in the loaf we bought there could have been a stunt double in Titanic. If it had been, I'd have shook its hand for killing off Leonardo Dicaprio's character...
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The lump of ice in the loaf we bought there could have been a stunt double in Titanic. If it had been, I'd have shook its hand for killing off Leonardo Dicaprio's character...
I've never meant to doubt that in your case the bread was frozen.

Looking at the Hiestand website (supplier of Coop)

http://www.hiestand.ch/de/schweiz/02.../01_stufen.htm

their products are indeed frozen at various stages of the baking process.

Still better than what we had to eat in boarding school though which was home frozen bread from Migros that was already stale and tasteless on the shelves and you could really notice that it had been frozen unlike the bread I've bought so far from Coop.
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Re: Migros and COOP - Low quality explained...

This problem is just not restricted to Coop or Migros; our local fruit and veg shop, Huber on Hottingerplatz has a similar problem. Figs last two max aso peaches and plums.

However, I have to say the butcher at Migros is very good as is there fresh fish counter.
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Old 18.09.2008, 15:45
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Sorry, but I didn't get it - is this picture now to demonstrate that variety is high or low? I would say its low as you can only see a couple of different types and probably just one or two brands of chocolate. Compare that to an aisle in a German supermarket....
A German supermarket would never have several stacks of the same product? On this photo there's nut, bio, cream filled, budget, white, dark, cooking, touristy chocolate from 75 to 400 grams - sounds like choice to me. That most of it is from a private brand is part of Migros' corporate history and if you're in need of branded chocolate, the Coop is just around the corner.

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ghhh, how DO YOU explain the chocolate shops in Mig or Cop?
You can only reduce choice to a certain degree before sales diminish? This number might be higher for chocolate and lower for breakfast cereals but puts the "more choice = less turnover" equation into perspective.

I'd make some photos of my local chocolate and bread shelves if I wouldn't have to carry the camera with me, believe what you want.

ps. How much time was needed to eat the 4.5 kg Toblerone bar?
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Re: Migros and COOP - Low quality explained...

Yeah they do, most of it is Ritter, but they do have stacks of other stuff including a range of Lindt and own brand. The style of chocolate seems to be wider too, with soft centres, brazil nuts, cherry liquers etc etc and of course: Reisen...

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A German supermarket would never have several stacks of the same product? On this photo there's nut, bio, cream filled, budget, white, dark, cooking, touristy chocolate from 75 to 400 grams - sounds like choice to me. That most of it is from a private brand is part of Migros' corporate history and if you're in need of branded chocolate, the Coop is just around the corner.



You can only reduce choice to a certain degree before sales diminish? This number might be higher for chocolate and lower for breakfast cereals but puts the "more choice = less turnover" equation into perspective.

I'd make some photos of my local chocolate and bread shelves if I wouldn't have to carry the camera with me, believe what you want.

ps. How much time was needed to eat the 4.5 kg Toblerone bar?
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Old 18.09.2008, 16:24
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Re: Migros and COOP - Low quality explained...

Look - I absolutely hate Switz and so am leaving - tomorrow

BUT - I have to admit, the Migro's and Coop food is actually pretty good if any of you have ever lived a little East and bought food in Tesco's or Auchan in Hungary. It's certainly not because of the food or the chocolates that I don't like the place. In fact these are probably in my very biased opinion the best things about this place.

I do think that they have kept out the big chains which has meant limited choices etc but then I think we al know that here in Switz, if you have the right colour money you are welcome - just make sure you spend it on all 'our expensive services'...

And yes, I am very biased and cannot see the goodness for the sterility - but the food and chocs are still good.
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Re: Migros and COOP - Low quality explained...

I have to agree with some of the posts in here.

The standard of fruit and veg at both major supermarkets is utterly abysmal. There are many things we've stopped buying at M or Coop:

* Onions. Bought a bag of 5 onions from Migros, they developed mould within 2 days. Onions should last for months.

* Carrots. Somehow, Migros carrots go black between 3 and 5 days. This is something in the UK that we again could keep for a couple of months and they'd still be fine.

* Chicken. Rancid chicken breast. 3 times. Well within date, perfectly sealed. Not fruit and veg, granted.

* Peppers. It is routine to see mouldy Peppers on display.

* Peaches/Mandarins/Oranges/Plumbs etc - Again, mouldy within a day or two of shopping. Well before the date on the label.

I don't know whether they have no idea how to store fruit and veg or what, but it really is better to get it from a local farm. Normally cheaper, too. Especially lettuce and mushrooms.
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Re: Migros and COOP - Low quality explained...

I bought a 500gm packet of cherry tomatoes last Saturday at a migros store and when I got them home they were mouldy........
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I have to agree with some of the posts in here.

The standard of fruit and veg at both major supermarkets is utterly abysmal. There are many things we've stopped buying at M or Coop:

* Onions. Bought a bag of 5 onions from Migros, they developed mould within 2 days. Onions should last for months.

* Carrots. Somehow, Migros carrots go black between 3 and 5 days. This is something in the UK that we again could keep for a couple of months and they'd still be fine.

* Chicken. Rancid chicken breast. 3 times. Well within date, perfectly sealed. Not fruit and veg, granted.

* Peppers. It is routine to see mouldy Peppers on display.

* Peaches/Mandarins/Oranges/Plumbs etc - Again, mouldy within a day or two of shopping. Well before the date on the label.

I don't know whether they have no idea how to store fruit and veg or what, but it really is better to get it from a local farm. Normally cheaper, too. Especially lettuce and mushrooms.
About some of the vegetables and fruits getting mouldy quickly...I took it as a sign of not having plenty of chemicals, being irradiated etc. I don't like tomatoes that are intact after I come home from a 2 weeks holiday.
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Re: Migros and COOP - Low quality explained...

Funny thread. Came back to CH after a lengthier stay in my home country and was literally shocked at how good fruit and vegetables look and taste here! The biggest difference were the kiwi, they are simply amazingly good here.

Disclamer: haven't yet been to the uk so can't compare with e.g. Tesco there.
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Re: Migros and COOP - Low quality explained...

I regularly struggle to pick out decent looking fruit and veg in Coop. I've also often opened packs of fruit and veg to discover mould. It's a regular occurrence here and I can't remember it ever happening in the UK.
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Re: Migros and COOP - Low quality explained...

Hmmm.

Regularly shop at COOP, and Migros, and Marinello......depends who supplies what I want.
And have never encountered mouldy/rotting fruit or veggie.
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Re: Migros and COOP - Low quality explained...

And here I thought it was because I did my shopping before closing time.
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I have to agree with some of the posts in here.

The standard of fruit and veg at both major supermarkets is utterly abysmal. There are many things we've stopped buying at M or Coop:

* Onions. Bought a bag of 5 onions from Migros, they developed mould within 2 days. Onions should last for months.

* Carrots. Somehow, Migros carrots go black between 3 and 5 days. This is something in the UK that we again could keep for a couple of months and they'd still be fine.



* Peaches/Mandarins/Oranges/Plumbs etc - Again, mouldy within a day or two of shopping. Well before the date on the label.

I don't know whether they have no idea how to store fruit and veg or what, but it really is better to get it from a local farm. Normally cheaper, too. Especially lettuce and mushrooms.

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onions ?? the stuff you got most likely HAS lasted for months
carrots ?? harvested in the days of General Guisan I suppose
oranges etc ?? the stuff does not profit from being driven through Italy and then waiting for three days in the Leventina south of the Gottardo
local farms ?? --- do not have oranges, mandarines, peaches
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I bought a 500gm packet of cherry tomatoes last Saturday at a migros store and when I got them home they were mouldy........

Last week, in the migros,I had such a packet of cherry toms in my hand, turned it over to check for the aforesaid and often seen mould and saw there were 8 larger toms, filling the base of the packet. Called the manager to complain as all the other packets were just the same and this is cheating. He wouldn't accept my complaint, said he could do nothing about it and that I should email the Migros. Which I didn't but as I'm starting to use Aldi more I won't forget that.
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Last week, in the migros,I had such a packet of cherry toms in my hand, turned it over to check for the aforesaid and often seen mould and saw there were 8 larger toms, filling the base of the packet. Called the manager to complain as all the other packets were just the same and this is cheating. He wouldn't accept my complaint, said he could do nothing about it and that I should email the Migros. Which I didn't but as I'm starting to use Aldi more I won't forget that.

Whether you use ALDI, LIDL, COOP, MIGROS, ALIGRO or whomever does NOT matter. You however should write.


The manager you contacted has no influence onto the central Distribution places.
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Re: Migros and COOP - Low quality explained...

Never buy produce that is packaged - only buy loose fruit, veggies, etc.

Yes, you will likely pay more per Kg - but considering that half the packaged produce is often rotten, loose fruit and veggies, where you can examine each piece, generally work out cheaper in the end.
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Never buy produce that is packaged - only buy loose fruit, veggies, etc.
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