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Old 25.01.2015, 14:29
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Restuarants not serving lunch after 2pm

Argghhh
You think that after living here for +10 years i would be used to this by now


Yesterday (Saturday) at 14h10 a newish Italian restaurant ( yes another Italian...) in the main street of Baar whose business hours on a Saturday are advertised as 9am to 11pm, told us they could only serve pizza as it was past 2pm. Pizza was not all that was available on the menu card.


Anyone in the restaurant business who knows why some restaurants stop serving all the options on their menu and revert to "some" minor stuff after 2pm?
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Re: Restuarants not serving lunch after 2pm

1. Often the cook is on break so he/she can come back for dinner. Choices left are easy to make for someone who is not a cook

2. Ingredients are put away so they will not go bad as very few people eatbetween 2pm and 5 pm

3. You can shut the kitchen down during this time and only leave a few pieces of equipment on saving on energy bills

Those are just a few of the reasons
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Old 25.01.2015, 14:53
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Argghhh
You think that after living here for +10 years i would be used to this by now


Yesterday (Saturday) at 14h10 a newish Italian restaurant ( yes another Italian...) in the main street of Baar whose business hours on a Saturday are advertised as 9am to 11pm, told us they could only serve pizza as it was past 2pm. Pizza was not all that was available on the menu card.


Anyone in the restaurant business who knows why some restaurants stop serving all the options on their menu and revert to "some" minor stuff after 2pm?
Hi, the reason for that will be the head chef will be on his break, he will have started around 9:00 am, will have prepped for and done the lunchtime service till 14:00pm, has a break till around 17:30 pm,then resumes his duties till normally 22:00 pm, unless there is a special function happening.
Over the quiet period, from 14:00 pm there will just be the servers around that will be producing basic food items, sandwiches, french fries etc.
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Re: Restuarants not serving lunch after 2pm

continued time is not normal i think, there is usually a break, i guess they become some sort of snack bar that's how they keep open all day.
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Re: Restuarants not serving lunch after 2pm

As outlined by Twinkle. Add up the work hours (including 17:30-22:30 or thereabouts) and you get a full work day.
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Old 25.01.2015, 18:17
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Re: Restuarants not serving lunch after 2pm

Meh Switzerland, I stopped asking those questions a long time ago.
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Re: Restuarants not serving lunch after 2pm

So, how was the pizza?
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Argghhh
You think that after living here for +10 years i would be used to this by now


Yesterday (Saturday) at 14h10 a newish Italian restaurant ( yes another Italian...) in the main street of Baar whose business hours on a Saturday are advertised as 9am to 11pm, told us they could only serve pizza as it was past 2pm. Pizza was not all that was available on the menu card.


Anyone in the restaurant business who knows why some restaurants stop serving all the options on their menu and revert to "some" minor stuff after 2pm?

Cooks work
11.00 to 13.30 = 2,5 hours
17.00 to 23.00 = 6,0 hours
a total of 8.5 hours
which is heavy --- and outside those hours only NON-Cooks are around
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Old 28.01.2015, 03:21
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Meh Switzerland, I stopped asking those questions a long time ago.

have you ever worked in a Military kitchen = ?
for breakfast 05.45-08.00 = 2.15
for lunch 10.00-14.00 = 4.00
for dinner 17.00-20.00 = 3.00
totalling 9.15


fairly enough
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have you ever worked in a Military kitchen = ?
for breakfast 05.45-08.00 = 2.15
for lunch 10.00-14.00 = 4.00
for dinner 17.00-20.00 = 3.00
totalling 9.15


fairly enough
...and what does that have to do with anything?
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Re: Restuarants not serving lunch after 2pm

I think Lost_inbroad's point is that in many other countries in and outside Europe (and indeed in many restaurants in Switzerland) they are somehow able to manage to keep the kitchen open throughout the afternoon. Perhaps this is because, and I am merely speculating here, they employ more than one chef!


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have you ever worked in a Military kitchen = ?
for breakfast 05.45-08.00 = 2.15
for lunch 10.00-14.00 = 4.00
for dinner 17.00-20.00 = 3.00
totalling 9.15


fairly enough
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...and what does that have to do with anything?
It seems to imply Wolli may have worked at some point in time
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I think Lost_inbroad's point is that in many other countries in and outside Europe (and indeed in many restaurants in Switzerland) they are somehow able to manage to keep the kitchen open throughout the afternoon. Perhaps this is because, and I am merely speculating here, they employ more than one chef!
And in some places labour is cheap and they have zero hour contracts. And the people who work end up working 2 or 3 jobs and are worse off.

Ultimately, the Swiss tend to eat their middle of the day meal around midday - and so beyond 1400 is alien to them - and lets not forget they are the majority. Keeping a chef (and additional kitchen staff) longer is an expense the restaurant isn't keen to carry - for very limited sales.

When in Rome and all that, after all, have you tried to get dinner at 7pm in Spain????
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Old 28.01.2015, 10:28
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And in some places labour is cheap and they have zero hour contracts. And the people who work end up working 2 or 3 jobs and are worse off.

Ultimately, the Swiss tend to eat their middle of the day meal around midday - and so beyond 1400 is alien to them - and lets not forget they are the majority. Keeping a chef (and additional kitchen staff) longer is an expense the restaurant isn't keen to carry - for very limited sales.

When in Rome and all that, after all, have you tried to get dinner at 7pm in Spain????
Or at 6pm in France when you've three really hungry kids.
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Old 28.01.2015, 10:30
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And in some places labour is cheap and they have zero hour contracts. And the people who work end up working 2 or 3 jobs and are worse off.

Ultimately, the Swiss tend to eat their middle of the day meal around midday - and so beyond 1400 is alien to them - and lets not forget they are the majority. Keeping a chef (and additional kitchen staff) longer is an expense the restaurant isn't keen to carry - for very limited sales.

When in Rome and all that, after all, have you tried to get dinner at 7pm in Spain????


I have. Its impossible! There, restaurants even advertise that they open at 8. Riiiight... Come at 830 and maaaaybe we will open and you maaaaaybe come in
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Or at 6pm in France when you've three really hungry kids.
Or at lunch in France (and I'm not talking about Paris where you can find some crappy place anytime), but in many other places you simply have to make a reservation, otherwise you just go around and get frustrated because there aren't any free tables in a restaurant. One time we were a group of people and when we almost lost any hope, there it came a lady from that village to tell us she just canceled her reservation and there will be a free table for 6. How kind of her.
So, lesson learned, we plan in advance (if possible) where are we going to eat and when. Usually I spend some time looking for restaurants in a certain area, I check up if there are any reviews available, etc

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Re: Restuarants not serving lunch after 2pm

McDonalds in Baar do serve their full menu after 2 pm
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McDonalds in Baar do serve their full menu after 2 pm
But there the chef doesn't need the afternoon off. Mainly because there isn't a chef
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I think Lost_inbroad's point is that in many other countries in and outside Europe (and indeed in many restaurants in Switzerland) they are somehow able to manage to keep the kitchen open throughout the afternoon. Perhaps this is because, and I am merely speculating here, they employ more than one chef!
Possible, and also most likely that they have a customer base that actually wants to be able to eat at non-standard times. That extra chef doesn't come for free, and clearly will only be employed if the additional business makes it worthwhile.

I'm not sure why the concept seems so hard for some to understand - sure, it's different from your home country, perhaps, so being caught out once early on is a normal part of the "Being Switzerlanded" experience, but once you know you simply have to make sure that you don't try to do things that aren't done here, like eating at four in the afternoon.

I detect a sense of entitlement among some posters - how _dare_ the restaurant not be serving dinner when I want to eat it! Seems a bit like complaining that it's cold in the winter and dark at night.
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have you tried to get dinner at 7pm in Spain????
Or before 10PM in Sardegna.

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