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A valid point is that the OP is a guy, and he didn't have to bother reading the media article he linked to in his original post. I seriously doubt that he is personally affected by any sizing decisions of VS, so he should find something else to complain about.
I truly was a victim of reading the stupid article in the first place. Did you read my thread to the end?

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"Suck it up" is a valid point?
It is an insult.

....and that's just the title
If the shoe fits, wear it. If it doesn't fit, cry about it. Sounds reasonable.

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So, single mothers get fat?

Personally, I lost weight as a single father, go figure.

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No, some people under certain conditions in their life may put on weight because the preoccupation with their other activities are both using up any leisure time they had for exercise and also meaning they are choosing a more simplistic and pleasurable food choice in expensive of a solely healthy diet. Is that clear enough ?

We've had three kids and both put on weight. Go figure.
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Why should they get fat? They may get unhealthy through lack of proper exercise but even an hour of hard exercise a day really doesn't burn many calories.


Single parents have my total admiration too, by the way.
Weight may be put on for various reasons Tom, could be exercise, not as good a diet, just not enough rest anything really. This is not some sweeping statement about parents and weight it was just an example that you cannot say 'all fat people are lazy' as some people, and I chose an example of a parent (not all parents!) who might be putting in massive amounts of energy during the day into raising their children and are so drained at the end of it they just collapse in front of the Telly with only time to make something simple and in time it may lead to a change in their weight. This is not being fat 'because they are lazy' it is being overweight because there are other higher priorities in their life above preparing healthy food and doing regular exercise at that moment.
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By the way Connor, your Ricky Gervais has the taste to love a real woman not an air-brushed model
Sorry but I got to react on this one. I agree with your position and what you said but this bit made me cringe. What a real woman? All women are real, all size, shape, etc.

I hate this fat people bashing and I don't think it's fair to do the same with the skinny ones.

Real women don't have curves, real women come in all size and shape.
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Sorry but I got to react on this one. I agree with your position and what you said but this bit made me cringe. What a real woman? All women are real, all size, shape, etc.

I hate this fat people bashing and I don't think it's fair to do the same with the skinny ones.

Real women don't have curves, real women come in all size and shape.
I agree, you're right. "Real" was not the correct term to use.
Only slim women are not in question in this thread. The offense starts in the title.

A real woman is as she wants to be and feels comfortable.
Whatever her shape.
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Sorry but I got to react on this one. I agree with your position and what you said but this bit made me cringe. What a real woman? All women are real, all size, shape, etc.

I hate this fat people bashing and I don't think it's fair to do the same with the skinny ones.

Real women don't have curves, real women come in all size and shape.

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Re: Big girls need to suck it up

Only on EF could a semi-troll thread about overweight people be then turned into a overweight single mother appreciation thread.

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Weight may be put on for various reasons Tom, could be exercise, not as good a diet, just not enough rest anything really. This is not some sweeping statement about parents and weight it was just an example that you cannot say 'all fat people are lazy' as some people, and I chose an example of a parent (not all parents!) who might be putting in massive amounts of energy during the day into raising their children and are so drained at the end of it they just collapse in front of the Telly with only time to make something simple and in time it may lead to a change in their weight. This is not being fat 'because they are lazy' it is being overweight because there are other higher priorities in their life above preparing healthy food and doing regular exercise at that moment.
Unless you have a genuine medical or psychological issue, then being fat is completely avoidable. It is a simple matter of consuming more calories than you burn, and being "too tired" to take notice of your health and diet is really no excuse. Especially so if you have children who depend on you and will use you as a benchmark.
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Big girls need to suck it up

Any sort of body shaming is just wrong. And when you do it and hide beneath the veneer of PC bullshit or some such nonsense, you're being a coward. And while excess weight is either implicated in or the consequence of many conditions, you cannot judge someone's health by appearance. It's just another place to hide your derision.

Real people exist in an incredible variation of shapes and sizes - men and women both.

Obviously, you have to make some judgements about people based on appearance. But it gets excessive around here pretty quickly, and when noticed, people hide behind this anti PC banner.

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Only on EF could a semi-troll thread about overweight people be then turned into a overweight single mother appreciation thread.



Unless you have a genuine medical or psychological issue, then being fat is completely avoidable. It is a simple matter of consuming more calories than you burn, and being "too tired" to take notice of your health and diet is really no excuse. Especially so if you have children who depend on you and will use you as a benchmark.

It is not a simple matter. If it were, there would be very few fat people. There is always something you can do to improve your health, but people exist across a wide range of shapes and sizes.

But it's a dead horse. We're never going to agree on this.
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Old 06.02.2015, 09:16
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Ahh, this is always a thorny one. The problem is that fat women are likely never again going to be considered as attractive or desirable in Western culture as we have moved on from the old ideals of "fat = wealth" and entered a new era of medical science where we know beyond any doubt that "fat = unhealthy".
Just because you have a BMI > 27 does not automatically mean you are less healthy than someone who has one < 27...

It can be very very very hard and frustrating for some people to lose weight. I can eat 1/2 of what my husband eats, work out 4-5 x a week (decent workouts burning at least 500 Cals an hour) and still not budge. So obviously, I am doing something wrong - but figuring out what that something is, isn't always easy. Add to that taking care (and feeding) 3 kids all day long, and there are many pitfalls for failure.

I have determined 2015 will be the year I finally lose the 10-15 kg gained in my last pregnancy. Has nothing to do with reunion coming up this summer . Losing weight at age 20 was (relatively) easy, doing so at 40 is much more difficult for many reasons...

If only it were this easy:

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Just because you have a BMI > 27 does not automatically mean you are less healthy than someone who has one < 27...
I was talking about genuinely unhealthily overweight people,

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It can be very very very hard and frustrating for some people to lose weight. I can eat 1/2 of what my husband eats, work out 4-5 x a week (decent workouts burning at least 500 Cals an hour) and still not budge. So obviously, I am doing something wrong - but figuring out what that something is, isn't always easy. Add to that taking care (and feeding) 3 kids all day long, and there are many pitfalls for failure.
What are you doing wrong? Well, you're not burning off more calories than you consume. Physics.

Eat less calories and healthier foods until you start losing weight.
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Eat less calories and healthier foods until you start losing weight.
Is it time for this?

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What a good start to the day, confirmation there's hope for me yet* !

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What are you doing wrong? Well, you're not burning off more calories than you consume. Physics.

Eat less calories and healthier foods until you start losing weight.
Depressed people - just think happy thoughts!
Heroin Addicts - Stop taking heroin!
thick people - just learn a degree and pass exams!
Jobless people - get a job!!!

Life is so simple, really.
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Only on EF could a semi-troll thread about overweight people be then turned into a overweight single mother appreciation thread.
Well what amuses me is that I even gave fair warning about the entire tone of the post (ok, at the end isn't so fair), just to get a rouse, and still they came out. What aggravated me in the first place had nothing to do with body type, size or color at all. What aggravated me was that I cannot fathom being insulted by a company, then turning around and wishing to be able to take part in that very company.

And of course the nature of the topic made for a nice deep pond to throw out a lure and put it in drive.
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Depressed people - just think happy thoughts!
Heroin Addicts - Stop taking heroin!
thick people - just learn a degree and pass exams!
Jobless people - get a job!!!

Life is so simple, really.
Yeah, lets just all make melodramatic excuses for ourselves and try and make out as though life is insufferably complicated in every respect instead!

Much easier to deal with that way, I guess...
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It is not a simple matter. If it were, there would be very few fat people.
If that were true there would have been as many fat people around 50 years ago as today. There weren't.
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Depressed people - just think happy thoughts!
Heroin Addicts - Stop taking heroin!
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Jobless people - get a job!!!

Life is so simple, really.
Ugly people - get other people to drink copious quantities of alcohol and get a shag
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This is not being fat 'because they are lazy' it is being overweight because there are other higher priorities in their life above preparing healthy food and doing regular exercise at that moment.
There's really no excuse for not preparing healthy food for your children.

People can eat whatever they want themselves but shouldn't put their children through the same.
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There's really no excuse for not preparing healthy food for your children.

People can eat whatever they want themselves but shouldn't put their children through the same.
Childhood obesity is the cure to a future pension crisis.
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