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This post would have been at least slightly helpful if you'd included what that idea was!
Anjela, it's simple, he makes his wife sleep on floor now !!
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I travel a lot and it is a pleasure to sleep in other countries mattresses, in hotels and appartments - I always look forward to my trips for this reason. I geel quite stuck. I will try Ikea and, otherwise, will have to go shopping to another country.
You might want to tell me where you stay, which hotels... My experience is that most hotel mattresses are not good (one exception in a hotel in Copenhagen), finding a pillow that is good is also a challenge.
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What a load of hogwash!

I can relate to your frustration if you fell for the overpriced foam crap that many salespeople like to push on you, but you can get excellent matresses (spring, latex, tempur, etc.) from many countries here.
Admittedly sometimes at ridiculous prices but that wasn't your complaint, was it?

BTW, IKEA has some pretty decent models too and you can actually return them if you're not happy.
Many thanks, Mark. Indeed, In meany different shops I got the same expensive foam mattress (different brands). I will star trying Ikea, but was hoping to also have access to brands in other countries with totally different features to the swiss ones, as either they fit to you, or one is lost with no alternative offers here. At least with me. The swiss mattress enterprise has made a huge business; I bought Bico, Roviva, Elite, Riposa, Happy... Probably I forgot another one.

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You might want to tell me where you stay, which hotels... My experience is that most hotel mattresses are not good (one exception in a hotel in Copenhagen), finding a pillow that is good is also a challenge.
Hi, thanks, I just came back from the Marriot hotel in Munich and the mattress was nice, as well as the surmatelas and the pillows.
Pillows in Switzerland are als a problem, as they are abroad in may hotels as well. For me the best is an Ikea pillow, I travel with it.

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I am sure that shops allow potential buyers to test mattresses before buying which prevents having to keep buying new ones.
We bought ours from Ikea, we were encouraged to try them in the store to decide which we preferred.

Hello, thanks for your reply. To my suprise, this is virtually impossible to get, at least in Canton Vaud. They tell you that you can buy your mattress and, if it does not suit you, in some cases they let you changing it for one from the same brand and model... to a different softness/hardness.
They do not let you trying mattresses at all - I went to many shops already, this is qualified answer.

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We had the same experience when we bought ours in Conforma. The assistant encouraged us to try them and not just by sitting on them but by lying down on them. Sitting on the does not give an accurate indication of how hard or soft they are according to the lady we dealt with.
Of course, one can try mattresses in shops. Lucky you if that is enough. It is not for me. It is known that until one has slept at least for 1 night (better longer) on a mattress, it is not possible to know if it is suitable.
People in shops are very kind. The problem is there is no other alternatives than just the same models, and in dispair, one ends up buying more of the same.
My goal? to make other potential people with the same problem aware that most swiss mattresses are made out of the same stuff, and to try to convince the market to bring brands from other countries.

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This firm, for instance, sells British beds worldwide, including in Switzerland- most famous brands. Mind you, when we bought out Super King Size Dunlopillo mattress in the UK 10 years ago- it cost us twice the price of the bed. Good stuff though- a good mattress is worth paying for imho:



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British Beds Worldwide 1 - 2 Moorside Court Yelverton Business Park Yelverton PL20 7PE United Kingdom Tel +44 (0) 1822 853636 Fax +44 (0) 1822 854410

Many thanks, Odile, for the headsup. I am going to check this brand and possiblities to import one.

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Swiss mattresses don't have all this shit (if we believe your first post, of course)

Unfortunatley, all swiss mattresses are made from material acquired in the same company in the Swiss german part; and, indeed, virtually all of them have that foam/mouse in massive amounts; sama for the surmatelas. Just get the brochures from internet.

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Re: Swiss mattresses are terribly bad, ALL

Oh I see- you are trying to start a business- should have said so from the start

What stops you bringing a mattress from abroad? If you know where to get what you want, just import it. It will cost you, but you will sleep well.

I posted earlier a link to a British business that sells quality sprung mattresses from the UK, all the top brands- most of them do not have a foam top.

Later edit: Elite, just down the road from you and almost next to Ikea, have mattress toppers (sur-matelas) made out of feathers, pure wool or pure silk!

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Hi, many thanks for your reply. i would like to find less sophisticated mattresses, wihtout the sticky mouss that gets onto the body, and without so many different points of support, hardness and softness that would only fit a few persosn or the average one but not everyone.

No mouss in exterior part is virtually impossible to find in a swiss matress;
I'm not really sure what the 'sticky mouss' is that you are referring to, but surely a mattress cover and sheet will solve this?
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The swiss mattress enterprise has made a huge business; I bought Bico, Roviva, Elite, Riposa, Happy... Probably I forgot another one.

If indeed this is true, then you are either very difficult or rather srtupid to have bought all of them. Maybe you should try them, for a little longer instead of just bitching in a generalised fashion
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Re: Swiss mattresses are terribly bad, ALL

Karen, you might have had a much better début on this forum if you had used a thread title like, say, "Swiss mattresses don't suit me, not the ones I've found so far, anyway." There are quite a few people here who dislike sweeping generalizations.

My American OH has very bad back pain whenever she is in the USA. We are transatlantic commuters, kind of, and after one week in Switzerland, sleeping on a (not very expensive) Swiss mattress, her back is fine and miraculously remains so until she flies back to the USA, where she has a very expensive mattress, the third in just a few years, because the previous ones were even worse.

In our little town in the USA, 680 inhabitants, there are six chiropractors. No kidding. In our place in Switzerland, 5,500 inhabitants, there's none. Interesting, isn't it? Granted, in the USA there's the overweight problem too, but I guess that's not the only factor, since the overweight of my OH is pretty much the same on both sides of the Big Pond.
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I'm not really sure what the 'sticky mouss' is that you are referring to, but surely a mattress cover and sheet will solve this?
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If indeed this is true, then you are either very difficult or rather srtupid to have bought all of them. Maybe you should try them, for a little longer instead of just bitching in a generalised fashion
Unfortunate of you to insult me like that; I can tell you that according to very objective standards I should not be stupid at all. The problem is that one does not know when you start buying this mattresses that if one does not suit you, there is a 99% probability none of them will (at least the expensive ones one is recommended in the shops and eventually buys to try out of desperation)... The problem they are all made with the same stuff the same.
Of course, I tried them for several months... To just end up running in the next free WE to try to find another one.
Lucky all that are happy with swiss mattresses; I am not and had so far to buy many till I discovered that they are all si ilar and why I don't have a probelm when I sleep in mattrsses from other countries.
Pity you insulted me so easy.
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Aldi or Lidl, single bed mattresses CHF149 with a 10 year guarantee. Simples.
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Re: Swiss mattresses are terribly bad, ALL

Have you ever considered asking at a hotel you've slept well about the brand of mattress they use?
I'd imagine they use commercially avaliable ones, so even if it's going to cost you in delivery fees and import duty you might finally find what you're looking for..... and you could then stop antagonising people here.
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Unfortunately, no. Don't think it is so simple. I know well what I am talking about (mousse). A cover does nothing, but even surmatelas here are frequently made out from the same 'mousse'
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Granted, in the USA there's the overweight problem too, but I guess that's not the only factor, since the overweight of my OH is pretty much the same on both sides of the Big Pond.
Your OH is not on EF, I suppose...
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Aldi or Lidl, single bed mattresses CHF149 with a 10 year guarantee. Simples.

Thanks, I will have a look at them. i must confess I always went to the best shops and brands. Thanks for the tip!
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Unfortunate of you to insult me like that; I can tell you that according to very objective standards I should not be stupid at all. The problem is that one does not know when you start buying this mattresses that if one does not suit you, there is a 99% probability none of them will (at least the expensive ones one is recommended in the shops and eventually buys to try out of desperation)... The problem they are all made with the same stuff the same.
Of course, I tried them for several months... To just end up running in the next free WE to try to find another one.
Lucky all that are happy with swiss mattresses; I am not and had so far to buy many till I discovered that they are all si ilar and why I don't have a probelm when I sleep in mattrsses from other countries.
Pity you insulted me so easy.

As Capt. Greybeard so elequantly pointed out, it's your sweeping generalisation that is galling
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Unfortunately, no. Don't think it is so simple. I know well what I am talking about (mousse).
mousse = foam?
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Hi, thanks, I just came back from the Marriot hotel in Munich and the mattress was nice, as well as the surmatelas and the pillows.
AFAIK, if you ask nicely, they will tell you their supplier.

I was once, during a professional training, lodging in what is probably normally some sort of "Kur-Hotel" someplace around Mainz (Germany).
I don't remember ever sleeping as good and deep as on that bed.
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Have you ever considered asking at a hotel you've slept well about the brand of mattress they use?
I'd imagine they use commercially avaliable ones, so even if it's going to cost you in delivery fees and import duty you might finally find what you're looking for..... and you could then stop antagonising people here.
Hi, thanks, yes, I tried that a couple of times with a hotel in Brussels and one i. The US. Unfortunately, the brand from the one in Brussels, a Dutch one, did not serve in Switzerland (although originally they took my order) and the american one requored that i went here in Switzerland to the same hotel chain, but had no opportunity. I also got a tip from a hotel here in the Swiss alps, but knowing the brand and models is notenough, in most cases, when we contact the providers, the models are different for the general oublic, and I find it extremely risky to order without having seen and tried the precise model. But indeed, I will keep trying.
I also hope that my comment helps making sense of repetitive problems with swiss mattresses to those persons who, as me and others, cannot find the right mattress when trying the shops around.
Thanks for,your willingness to help.

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AFAIK, if you ask nicely, they will tell you their supplier.

I was once, during a professional training, lodging in what is probably normally some sort of "Kur-Hotel" someplace around Mainz (Germany).
I don't remember ever sleeping as good and deep as on that bed.
Thanks, I should indeed put more emphasis in these other alternatives; I tried to long to solve the problem in the same way. I will try to get info of brand and model andhope I can get the same. As I travel frequently, this should end up being eventually possible.
Thanks.

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I'm sorry but I'm finding it really hard to understand how all Swiss mattresses can be the same and made from exactly the same materials.

We bought our mattress here but I have no idea if it is Swiss or not. It is a pocket sprung mattress and is the most comfortable mattress we have ever had.
How can a foam or memory foam mattress be the same as a sprung one? It's just not possible.

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I'm sorry but I'm finding it really hard to understand how all Swiss mattresses can be the same and made from exactly the same materials.

We bought our mattress here but I have no idea if it is Swiss or not. It is a pocket sprung mattress and is the mist confit table mattress we have ever had.
How can a foam or memory foam mattress be the same as a sprung one? It's just not possible.
You are right that the material is not the samewhne we talk about tempur, foam or memory foam, or latex... But within eac of these categories, all companies order theri custom made blocks for each mattress from the same company in the swiss german part (I will try to send the precise info later). For example, I did not find recently a springs mattreses without foam on the surfaces, and this foam is a clear problem. Spring mattresses seem to work well for me.

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Karen, you might have had a much better début on this forum if you had used a thread title like, say, "Swiss mattresses don't suit me, not the ones I've found so far, anyway." There are quite a few people here who dislike sweeping generalizations.

My American OH has very bad back pain whenever she is in the USA. We are transatlantic commuters, kind of, and after one week in Switzerland, sleeping on a (not very expensive) Swiss mattress, her back is fine and miraculously remains so until she flies back to the USA, where she has a very expensive mattress, the third in just a few years, because the previous ones were even worse.

In our little town in the USA, 680 inhabitants, there are six chiropractors. No kidding. In our place in Switzerland, 5,500 inhabitants, there's none. Interesting, isn't it? Granted, in the USA there's the overweight problem too, but I guess that's not the only factor, since the overweight of my OH is pretty much the same on both sides of the Big Pond.
Hi, I see your point, but I hope to reach people that might need to get the info I am trying to share to prevent them from useless spending and dispair. I thought the title I gave would call their attention easier as it contains keywords I would look up myself when searching in internet for relevant info.

Thanks for your advice.

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