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Old 14.03.2015, 09:10
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These guys have timetables to adhere to. When a tram is on the move - move meaning after the allotted time at the stop then no they are not going to open the doors (although some may). They don't know when they're going to get the "go" signal and the last thing they need is being delayed by a straggler.
Sometimes they open the front door if they are are waiting for the signal and see a single passenger approaching in hurry. But generally it's exactly like Slaphead explained.
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Old 14.03.2015, 09:54
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I was on a bus to Altstetten station that was stuck in a long traffic queue - that did not look like moving. The bus was only a hundred metres or so from the stop, and the driver kindly opened the doors to let people off so they could make their trains. So they WILL make exceptions.
I've been in a similar situation at SBB. The tram was stuck a few minutes, waiting to get into its slot. People started opening doors with the emergency lever, which delayed the rest of us even more because we couldn't set off until the driver had checked and reset the doors.
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Old 15.03.2015, 14:55
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I was on a bus to Altstetten station that was stuck in a long traffic queue - that did not look like moving. The bus was only a hundred metres or so from the stop, and the driver kindly opened the doors to let people off so they could make their trains. So they WILL make exceptions.

Sure, but the man risked his Job
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Old 15.03.2015, 18:48
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Sure, but the man risked his Job
Actually, drivers are allowed to let people off the tram or bus when outside a stop, but certain conditions have to be fulfilled. I think these include that

a) there must be a valid reason for opening the doors. Avoiding a wait of some minutes is not a valid reason, but a serious traffic perturbation and expectation of very long delay is, or a medical emergency, or a broken down tram, or something like that
a) the driver or another member of staff must in all these cases ensure that the situation is safe
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Re: Trams

subsidiary-almost-related-question: does anyone know why the (Zurich) trams have a "stop" button which triggers a little bell sound and the "stop" indication on the screens, like if you'd request for a stop in a bus, even though of course the tram will stop at every station?
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subsidiary-almost-related-question: does anyone know why the (Zurich) trams have a "stop" button which triggers a little bell sound and the "stop" indication on the screens, like if you'd request for a stop in a bus, even though of course the tram will stop at every station?
If they're anything like the trams in Geneva then pressing the 'stop' button triggers the opening mechanism for the nearest door.
A green indicator also lights up above that particular door to show that it will open as soon as the tram's finished moving.
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Old 31.03.2015, 00:16
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I have an almost OCD thingy that i always want to be the first person to make the light go on or beep!!
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Old 31.03.2015, 09:33
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Re: Trams

Do trams always stop at every station or do they only stop when passengers are waiting or a passenger on the tram signals they want off (like buses)? I've never been on a tram when it wasn't so busy that it was stopping all the time regardless, and since we don't have trams locally, I don't get a lot of occasions to observe.
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Do trams always stop at every station or do they only stop when passengers are waiting or a passenger on the tram signals they want off (like buses)? I've never been on a tram when it wasn't so busy that it was stopping all the time regardless, and since we don't have trams locally, I don't get a lot of occasions to observe.
Geneva trams stop at every stop, with individual doors opening if someone has pushed the button to active that particular one. That's why they have a green light above then, the idea being to save people pushing the 'open' button unnecessarily.

I don't think 'my' trams have a bell. The buses do and that will only ring once; the first time someone on the bus pushes a 'stop' button, with same system of green lights and individual doors opening.

I would imagine trams elsewhere are the same.

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Old 31.03.2015, 10:03
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Re: Trams

There is only one tram line in Neuchâtel but the trams don't always stop at every stop.
The trams stop if somebody has pushed the bell or if somebody is waiting at the stop. I think the 'minor' stops that are not used frequently have a button to push to alert the driver that somebody is waiting at that stop ( but it's a long time since I used it so I might be confusing it with the request stops on the train to Bern ).
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Old 31.03.2015, 10:21
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Re: Trams

You only make the mistake of ignoring the "stop on request" notification once!
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Re: Trams

well in Zurich the trams stop at every station, no matter what. And if you press the button before the tram stops, the associated door will not always open (unless you pressed the button located directly on the door). However the "stop" sign will display on the monitors in the tram that show the next stations. It never made sense to me, but as Patsy said it triggers some kind of weird compulsive behaviour where people (me included) press the button if they want to hop off at the next station, almost immediately after leaving the current one.
However I cannot believe this behaviour is a response to the anxiety that the tram would not actually stop.
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Re: Trams

Thanks for all the replies. I'm always a little paranoid when I'm not familiar with the system or the sequence for stops! On our bus we have to watch carefully to signal or we just go on by. Nice to know I can relax a little on the Zurich trams.
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You only make the mistake of ignoring the "stop on request" notification once!
Yep OH was late for a meeting once because he didn't realise his stop was a request stop and he had to get off at the next stop and wait for a tram going the other way. He never made that mistake again.
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did you try this?
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Trams waiting for half minute for the traffic lights with doors locked while you just stand there and the driver is pretending he's not there to notice you.
The driver doesn't know how long the traffic light will take, why would he take the risk to delay many people to help someone that was delayed?
Be on time next time simpler solution
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