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Comedy car crashes

Hmm, observation time here.

Am I alone in noticing the quantity of car accidents that seem to be somewhat comical in nature? Just, again, read in AZ today, and saw a car that had ended up in a vet's reception area. Another car that had ended up driving off the road and up a grassy hill. Recently in Baden, another car that veered off the road and ended up in the reception of an office (partly) and also managed to take out the side of a van in the process. In Gnadenthal, at the narrow bridge, an old bloke had not seen it, missed the road, and drove into the railing of the bridge (saw this ourselves, had to struggle not to point and laugh). Other cars that have gone off the road somehow, and you see the picture of it sitting on it's roof.

Mind you, you do wonder about the potential root causes when you read about the old guy in Mellingen who was stopped recently with no working brake lights: The police inspected his car and noticed the brakes were completely rotten. Further investigation revealed there was also no brake fluid in the system. His answer was that it's no problem at all - he uses the handbrake. Scary.
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aahhh....you are living in Aargau...
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Re: Comedy car crashes

In Migros the other day a women divided to turn into a underground parking space in her Nissan Qashqai and hit the concrete pillar on entry, WTF! The front right of the car smashed into smithereens, plastic everywhere.

I know double points were on offer at Migros on that perticular day but is there a need to rush whilst trying to park. Women!
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In Migros the other day a women divided to turn into a underground parking space in her Nissan Qashqai and hit the concrete pillar on entry, WTF! The front right of the car smashed into smithereens, plastic everywhere.
Happened to a neighbour of mine too. She blamed her satnav.
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Re: Comedy car crashes

Two causes: People living here (not just the Swiss!) like to follow rules and the road layout throughout the entire country is awful. So they get to a stupidly-designed junction or whatever, don't know what to do or who has right of way, and just plough through it.

I've seen more crashes here in Basel than I've ever seen in London. Admittedly, here they tend to just damage cars, trams and concrete pillars rather than people, but even so.
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Two causes: People living here (not just the Swiss!) like to follow rules and the road layout throughout the entire country is awful. So they get to a stupidly-designed junction or whatever, don't know what to do or who has right of way, and just plough through it.
I agree that many Swiss road layouts are crap. But is London really that much better? Admittedly I haven't driven much in London so really only know it from the pedestrian perspective. But at least Swiss roads are consistently crap whereas London appears to be more stochastically crap.
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Re: Comedy car crashes

.. Coop in Mellingen. I was there once when three cars tried to reverse out of their spaces at the same time - and all nearly collided. It was hilarious watching them as they tried to untangle themselves from the situation.

.. the woman who parked on the right hand side of the road near us to use the bottle recycling place on the left hand side. She had parked perfectly parallel to another guy who had parked on the left-hand side to use the same facility. Thus the road was blocked. She was completely oblivious to what she had done.

.. A few times now the driver of a parked car has flung the door open and got out as I was passing them

.. twice I have witnessed a 2-car stand-off at the middle of the single-lane bridge between Birmenstorf and Mülligen (I think this actually happens a lot on that bridge)

Seems some folk are a) absolutely oblivious to what is going on around them b) have absolutely no regard whatsoever as to the consequences of their actions upon others or c) never actually had official driving tuition..

Yes, I live in Aargau..
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Seems some folk are a) absolutely oblivious to what is going on around them b) have absolutely no regard whatsoever as to the consequences of their actions upon others or c) never actually had official driving tuition..

Yes, I live in Aargau..
I chalk this up to the observation that the average Swiss driver is rigidly following the rules, at the detriment of applying common sense in many situations. Possibly they think that if they follow some set of rules to the letter, they don't need to actually apply their brain when driving?

The problem stems from the fact that rules cannot be made comprehensive enough to handle every possible kind of situation, and at the same time, it is impossible to keep all the rules in mind to obviate the need for common sense.

The polar opposite is India I suppose where all rules are supplanted with some sort of swarm intelligence where each individual is in a constant state of high alert trying to avoid all moving and static obstacles and the only way to survive is by assuming that every other participant in the traffic is a crazy maniac out to get you.
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I chalk this up to the observation that the average Swiss driver is rigidly following the rules, at the detriment of applying common sense in many situations. Possibly they think that if they follow some set of rules to the letter, they don't need to actually apply their brain when driving?
Does explain the roundabout issue — "Very good. Priority from the right it is. Drive straight onto the roundabout because I now have priority. I will ignore the give way sign at the entrance and the 40 tonne truck coming from the left, as I do not need to look left at all - those vehicles will stop, of course. Then I will immediately come to a stop after entering, as the others entering from the right of me now have priority."

Replace "the 40 tonne truck" by "me in a car", and you have the exact same situation that occurred to me while using the roundabout at Würenlingen Coop last Saturday. Not only did I nearly hit him side-on, I then nearly hit him at the rear-end as he'd then bloody stopped to let the others on the roundabout And he wasn't old either !
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Does explain the roundabout issue — "Very good. Priority from the right it is. Drive straight onto the roundabout because I now have priority. I will ignore the give way sign at the entrance and the 40 tonne truck coming from the left, as I do not need to look left at all - those vehicles will stop, of course. Then I will immediately come to a stop after entering, as the others entering from the right of me now have priority."

Replace "the 40 tonne truck" by "me in a car", and you have the exact same situation that occurred to me while using the roundabout at Würenlingen Coop last Saturday. Not only did I nearly hit him side-on, I then nearly hit him at the rear-end as he'd then bloody stopped to let the others on the roundabout And he wasn't old either !
My understanding was that if there is not actually a give way sign or a roundabout sign, then the priority from right rule applies even on what appears to be a roundabout, crazy as it may seem.
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Re: Comedy car crashes

...try Maltese driving, pussies..!
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My understanding was that if there is not actually a give way sign or a roundabout sign, then the priority from right rule applies even on what appears to be a roundabout, crazy as it may seem.

I just wanted to asked if such a "roundabout" exists, then I remembered this one: https://goo.gl/maps/4QAVy

Still not matched by the Sursee stupidness: Two lane approach ends in a single lane roundabout, twice. https://goo.gl/maps/yfNhO
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Re: Comedy car crashes

Hey aSwissInTheUS, I know that one!!
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I just wanted to asked if such a "roundabout" exists, then I remembered this one: https://goo.gl/maps/4QAVy

Still not matched by the Sursee stupidness: Two lane approach ends in a single lane roundabout, twice. https://goo.gl/maps/yfNhO
These two are nice; both with a cool spiral structure. Both from near where I used to live in the UK - http://goo.gl/maps/vf1rU and http://goo.gl/maps/2kx9E

There are others, but these two I used a lot.

Would LOVE to see them here
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I just wanted to asked if such a "roundabout" exists, then I remembered this one: https://goo.gl/maps/4QAVy

Still not matched by the Sursee stupidness: Two lane approach ends in a single lane roundabout, twice. https://goo.gl/maps/yfNhO
I only know the Sursee roundabout from your link, reality may differ. With that said I find the idea quite interesting, innovative:
The coloring indicates (fairly clearly to me) that the idea is to have a right-turn-only lane and one for everybody else.

However, the visualisation/signalisation may need improving.
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I only know the Sursee roundabout from your link, reality may differ. With that said I find the idea quite interesting, innovative:
The coloring indicates (fairly clearly to me) that the idea is to have a right-turn-only lane and one for everybody else.

However, the visualisation/signalisation may need improving.
Reality is if you drive from MW531 to Hutu you would use the left hand lane and more or less go straight over. Unfortunately, some poor lad on the right lane thinks he can to the same, instead driving along the right outer edge, he drives as well totally straight ahead over the roundabout. Some of those on the right, even think it is wise to do a 3/4 turn.
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I just wanted to asked if such a "roundabout" exists, then I remembered this one: https://goo.gl/maps/4QAVy

Still not matched by the Sursee stupidness: Two lane approach ends in a single lane roundabout, twice. https://goo.gl/maps/yfNhO
These are definitely no valid examples (for roundabouts without signalisation), since the first one isn't a roundabout at all, nevertheless that google "thinks"/categorise it differently (who is following even non-existing rules here? ), and the second shows cleary give way signs for the entering traffic. And yes, it is a two lane entering and a two lane roundabout though not explicitely indicated that way (since the Strassenamt possibly and reasonably thought that even a driver with a thorough lower than average intelllgence can handle this).

Well, everbody else should just not drive.
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These are definitely no valid examples (for roundabouts without signalisation), since [...] the second shows cleary give way signs for the entering traffic.
This is how signals are placed in reality, which makes it valid. If you want to enter you have to give way, those in the roundabout already have right of way.

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Re: Comedy car crashes

I learned driving in Jakarta Indonesia, where the only rule on the road is NOT to hit other vehicles and people. Other than those, anything goes really.
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