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Old 16.04.2015, 01:20
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Police Control Tram 2 from Kappeli to Banhof Wiedikon

So apparently, it seems a police was trailing Tram 2 till the next stop to fish me out. Headphones in me ears, African music booming while I am flirting on a gay chat app, sexy guys in full picture display. I neither saw nor heard them speak to me... Lady touched me and I freaked out "woah"... 3 policemen ( 2 go to my gym) & 1 beautiful blond lady smiling from ear to ear


Me: How can I help you? (My "stupid" polite English gentleman self)

Police Lady: Alles Klar

Me: All good thanks and yourself? (I watched the other 3 men triangulate me, it is an interrogation tactic, I am used to. I don't panic but focus on this beautiful blond lady police.

Police Lady: Ja, auch bei uns... Kannst du bitte Ousere (swiss german... Yak) kommen

We stepped out of the tram. The policemen were not feeling amused. Deep within me, I was laughing my ass off, two of them go to the same gym with me. What are they going to say to me when next they see me?


Police guy: Hey, where do you come from?

Me: The gym

Police guy: No, I mean contri (English level could be A2/1)

Me: ah, (named my country), why something Happened?

Police guy: Where do u stay?

Me: Seebanhstrasse, why?

Police guy: You stay alone... (really)!

Me: Yes. u looking for anyone ( At this point, I was just being rude)

Policeguy No 2: no, but you resemble a guy we looking for... Shows to me a picture

Ok here is were i freaked out... Really, if this is to whom I looked like, this is an insult. The guy on the picture is darker than night. I do not know if that pic was photoshopped but really? I felt pissed beyond my Ego. I used to be mistaken for Didier Drogba, R.Kelly or P. Diddy (Sean Combs) but not this type of guy on the picture.

Me: Sir, do you think I look like him?

Policeguy 2: You guys look all the same... ( You guys? All the same? I was boiling but I kept my calm)


(Then a call comes via their radio).... he turns to me and says...ok ok Ok ok sorry to disturb you. They jump into their big ass Van and drove off. No good byes or thanks for your cooperation....NADA

What is this issue with "you look like someone we are looking for?" or "You guys look all the same"

Instantly, I thought about all the many times I was stopped in Zurich. I can honestly say, out of 15-20 times, more than 5 times I was told I looked like someone they were looking for, and often some policemen said "We blacks look the same"... I remember in 2009 I was living around Limmatplatz. During winter, on my way to school, I was stopped 3 bloody times in a period of 15 mins and asked the same questions. I was so pissed that I sat by the road side, took out all the cards I had, even school library cards and gave them to the policeman, stating that I was miffed at them. Even some passer-bys and onlookers were on my side, with a lady affirming that she saw two different police groups pulled me over. 6-years later, I still remember that incident. I even offered to these policemen free African cultural differentiation classes for free because I was pissed off my the statement "You guys look all the same"

The Joker is not The Riddler

I still remember the late 1960ies, when I quite often at the Airport went about aircraft photography together with my friends. But only me was checked up to 4 times per day, as I apparently resembled some chaps of the PFLP and the PDFLP. At one time, two police officers even came to our home. They even took some photos of me and therafter I no longer had any problems at all


Worst however was in about 1980 when I was just preparing to drive from London back home to Zürich and on TV realized that a murderer of Egyptian origin looked exceedingly like me and concluded das kann ja heiter werden and it DID become strange as on all border crossings the Check-ups were perfectly awful. The chap only was caught when I was back for two days.
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Old 16.04.2015, 01:36
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Re: Rude Police (some) Attitude

Chappelle said it best:

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Calling all cars, calling all cars, “Be on the lookout for a black male between 4’7’’ and 6’8”.
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Old 16.04.2015, 01:42
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I still remember the late 1960ies, when I quite often at the Airport went about aircraft photography together with my friends. But only me was checked up to 4 times per day, as I apparently resembled some chaps of the PFLP and the PDFLP. At one time, two police officers even came to our home. They even took some photos of me and therafter I no longer had any problems at all


Worst however was in about 1980 when I was just preparing to drive from London back home to Zürich and on TV realized that a murderer of Egyptian origin looked exceedingly like me and concluded das kann ja heiter werden and it DID become strange as on all border crossings the Check-ups were perfectly awful. The chap only was caught when I was back for two days.
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Re: Rude Police (some) Attitude

Love your post! But sorry about the experience. You should write a blog about your Swiss life, your writing style is great ))))))
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Old 16.04.2015, 08:26
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And you're not even living in the former East Germany: when we lived there for two years, our son was in the local primary school and the PE teacher as a warm up got them to play "Wer hat Angst vom Schwarzmann"!!
And as there was not a single black pupil in the school (actually, in the whole town!), the teacher picked a girl who was half Italian, with slightly olive skin, telling her: "You'll have to do, you're the only coloured pupil we've got"!


Political correctness is often decried, but this was clearly a case where some strong PC education was needed, as for your police officers!
Don't have to go to East Germany for that game, they play it here, too...
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Old 16.04.2015, 09:04
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Re: Rude Police (some) Attitude

Whenever I've seen someone being stopped and searched by the police in Zürich they've invariably been black or brown. Guess it's the same the world over. Must be awful to be on the receiving end, being made to empty your pockets when you've done absolutely nothing wrong.

Now the question is, why do police the police do this? Are they just ignorant or are they under instruction to carry out racial profiling?
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Whenever I've seen someone being stopped and searched by the police in Zürich they've invariably been black or brown. Guess it's the same the world over. Must be awful to be on the receiving end, being made to empty your pockets when you've done absolutely nothing wrong.

Now the question is, why do police the police do this? Are they just ignorant or are they under instruction to carry out racial profiling?
I've seen it a few of times and they weren't black or brown (not really) - just males between say 20-25 or 30 y.o. dressed rapper style (sort of). I didn't gather the police was searching for someone, it seemed it was just routine. I felt sorry for the poor chaps.
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Don't have to go to East Germany for that game, they play it here, too...
As far as I know the black man is a symbol for death and has nothing to do with skin color. The game probably dates back to ancient times when the plague (sometimes also referred to "black death") was killing millions of people...
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Old 16.04.2015, 13:29
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Re: Rude Police (some) Attitude

Are there no black or asian police in Zurich?
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Old 16.04.2015, 14:42
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Don't have to go to East Germany for that game, they play it here, too...
East Berlin - was approached and questioned by a policewoman at 5 AM, so I bought her a drink. Best nightlife in the world! Never happens in Zuerich.

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Are there no black or asian police in Zurich?
Not too many. The (left-wing) city council executive responsible for the police wanted to recruit more people with a non-Swiss background and more women. See here for more details (in German) and further references to newspaper articles dating back to 2013:
http://al-zh.ch/news/artikel/article...dtpolizei.html

However, even this guy wants to use such police officers only at Langstrasse - apparently not in any posh areas:
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Das Ziel besteht darin, dass man an der Langstrasse beispielsweise auch dunkelhäutige Polizeiangehörige antrifft, die Kontrollen durchführen. Diese haben vielleicht auch etwas mehr Verständnis dafür, wie es ist, anders auszusehen.
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As far as I know the black man is a symbol for death and has nothing to do with skin color. The game probably dates back to ancient times when the plague (sometimes also referred to "black death") was killing millions of people...

Probably is the case. But it just sounds bad in this day and age!
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Old 16.04.2015, 23:22
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Can't say anything wrong about the police just doing there job. Today I got stopped ( he jumped in front of my car ) checking we all had seat belts on.
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Can't say anything wrong about the police just doing there job. Today I got stopped ( he jumped in front of my car ) checking we all had seat belts on.
That was good thinking. He checked your brakes at the same time!
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My kid tells me ,"I didn't get hired to be polite ,I got hired to reinforce the law." And this is ugly business most of the time
Nurses are hired to nurse the sick and injured, postman are hired to deliver post (etc. etc.). Would you expect them to be impolite because they had a bad day or just because that's the way they work? A public officer has to keep a basic level of politeness, because they represent the country they work for with anything they do while on duty, besides being paid with money from their fellow countrymen, including the one(s) they are currently harassing.
If your kid finds his job too hard I feel sorry for him but he's free to look for an easier one.
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That's very sad to hear. I feel very sorry for you indeed, it's horrible because everybody looks when they see the police speaking to someone and just imagine if your Boss or your Partner's parents drove past at that particular time?

I'm Caucasian so I don't understand what it's like , but I know a little bit because my husband is a Muslim and we always get stopped at the airport, funnily enough they always want to go through my things and check our children etc etc but let him pass!!!

We were out to dinner with his Boss whom is also a Muslim at the weekend and he told me that whilst visiting the USA he was harassed by the Police and at the airports as well.

What I don't understand is if they are all so racist then why can't they just catch the bad guys then!!!??? They need some more training me thinks!!!!
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Old 17.04.2015, 10:34
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I think that now I understand where confusion is coming from. Since all policemen look the same therefore, logically in their mind, all suspects must look the same too ...
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Nurses are hired to nurse the sick and injured, postman are hired to deliver post (etc. etc.). Would you expect them to be impolite because they had a bad day or just because that's the way they work? A public officer has to keep a basic level of politeness, because they represent the country they work for with anything they do while on duty, besides being paid with money from their fellow countrymen, including the one(s) they are currently harassing.
If your kid finds his job too hard I feel sorry for him but he's free to look for an easier one.

Yea right ! "Good morning Mr. child molester ,I delighted to put you under arrest . Can I get you a cup of coffee, tea or a perhaps coffee fertig ,let me know if the handcuffs are unconvertible "

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