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Knowing that a lot of sick,drugged horses are sent to slaughter for "steak" enjoy that with your beloved daughter ! I will have all my Harley friends come down with their Stetsons and Cowboy boot from Colorado with some medical marijuana for you as that would be a healthier choice to be offering....SIGH !
So you're saying if a horse has been drugged, then it should be legitimate to eat horse steak for medical reasons in Colorado
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Well, the first frame of the comic has an individual referring to a 'High Horse'.
The term 'high' is informally used to describes feeling euphoric, especially from the effects of drugs or alcohol. This is especially common in the consumption of THC.
The second frame of the comic shows a close up of the horse showing red, half closed eyes---very common effects of the consumption of THC.
It also quotes the horse saying 'wut', a partially incoherent pronunciation of 'what', implying confusion and general slow-mindedness: Also effects of the consumption of THC.
THC is an active ingredient in Cannabis--the culture of which is celebrated on the 20th of April.
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Old 21.04.2015, 14:32
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Knowing that a lot of sick,drugged horses are sent to slaughter for "steak" enjoy that with your beloved daughter ! I will have all my Harley friends come down with their Stetsons and Cowboy boot from Colorado with some medical marijuana for you as that would be a healthier choice to be offering....SIGH !
That she can get at home, as she has her California medical marijuana ID.

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Knowing that a lot of sick,drugged horses are sent to slaughter for "steak" !
I know I m going off topic, but where did you get THAT from? In Switzerland? If so, I think you might need to do some research first.
1. Some horses/foals are explicitly bred for food consumption --> if they do not get enough points for breeding at the foal show, they end up on the plate. They are in no way drugged or sick, just don't fit the standards for breeding.
2. EVERY horse owner in CH is required to declare his horse in the national database as HEIM or NUTZtier. A HEIMtier, is not allowed to be slaughtered and the meat put up for sale. Because there might be medications etc not tracked in the corps. A NUTZtier owner needs to keep a diary which is regularly checked up by vets in which every single medicine or treatment is recorded. If there are dangerous things or just recently received, the horse meat is not allowed to go into circulation.

These just a few notions of what is going on in CH with CH horse meat.
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Old 21.04.2015, 14:36
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Re: The cruel side of Sechselauten-Horse dies of heart attack !

"Everyone screams abuse about animals in circuses, yet it's fine for dog acts to appear (and win) on talent shows on TV. Double standards is what I call it. Especially when the dogs enjoy it so much."

No, "everybody" doesn't scream abuse about animals in circuses. The main complaints about circuses tend to focus on non-domesticated animals (elephants, bears and big cats). Many people agree that dogs, and even horses, enjoy learning and performing tricks, though there's a huge different between training a pet to do a trick or two on TV and training dogs to perform every day in a traveling show. I think the main point here might be that that explosions stress animals out and that, in this case, it's something that could easily be scaled back, if not abandoned.
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My loved ones say you are a troll and in the future I shall send you to Coventry !
Firstly that quote was in response to Richdog - not you but sounds good to me!

Having a debate, which you started so sensationally, is not trolling but if you want to take it that way then who am I to burst your bubble. I've only said what I think, just like you - the fact that we don't agree is neither here nor there. You're the one taking offence at other people's opinions just because they are different to yours.

Even though I could ask my family, I can actually think for myself so I won't say what I think you are or where I would like to send you because quite frankly you'd be offended! Thankfully, I've been sent to Coventry so this is pretty much the end of our little debate. This you'll find could be classed as trolling.
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Old 21.04.2015, 16:05
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"Everyone screams abuse about animals in circuses, yet it's fine for dog acts to appear (and win) on talent shows on TV. Double standards is what I call it. Especially when the dogs enjoy it so much."

No, "everybody" doesn't scream abuse about animals in circuses. The main complaints about circuses tend to focus on non-domesticated animals (elephants, bears and big cats). Many people agree that dogs, and even horses, enjoy learning and performing tricks, though there's a huge different between training a pet to do a trick or two on TV and training dogs to perform every day in a traveling show. I think the main point here might be that that explosions stress animals out and that, in this case, it's something that could easily be scaled back, if not abandoned.
Actually, some years ago, the Zürich zoo were having a spot of trouble with their elephants. One of them even had to be put down after it attacked (and if I remember correctly, killed) a member of staff. There were also various other incidents with elephants behaving maliciously. The director of Circus Knie accused the zoo of not doing enough with their elephants. He said they suffer more from boredom that they do from doing tricks. This is one of the reasons the zoo finally decided to give them a better encolusre with more stuff to do, but they also teach the elephants little routines.

So you might argue about the sense or nonsense of keeping wild animals in captivity at all. But if they are kept in captivity, it is often better to teach them stuff and make them perform than letting them rot and end up doing stupid if not dangerous things out of mental boredom. The circus = bad and zoo = good line of argument is way too simplistic.
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Old 21.04.2015, 16:15
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So you might argue about the sense or nonsense of keeping wild animals in captivity at all. But if they are kept in captivity, it is often better to teach them stuff and make them perform than letting them rot and end up doing stupid if not dangerous things out of mental boredom. The circus = bad and zoo = good line of argument is way too simplistic.
Nobody made the circus=bad, zoo=good argument here. Boredom among animals in captivity is a whole other issue - one in which we seem to be in agreement, but which I felt was too off-topic for this thread. My point is that animals and explosives don't mix. I've never seen an animal have a heart attack, thankfully, but I did have a dog who would instantly poop at the sound of fireworks going off. July 4 was always fun...
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Old 21.04.2015, 16:30
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Nobody made the circus=bad, zoo=good argument here.
This probably belongs in its own thread, but circuses are just shit anyway.



Whether there are animals dressed in tutus jumping through flaming hoops or middle aged men wearing make up and bright red noses, the whole grisly scenario should be banned in the name of culture and good taste.

 And if you think you're doing the small people a favor by having them witness these atrocities for a few hours licking an ice cream whilst you're looking after the neighbor's kids, then don't fool yourself, they think it's shit too. You're probably instilling a clown trauma in them which will haunt them through the rest of their poor wretched lives.



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Old 21.04.2015, 16:40
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Re: The cruel side of Sechselauten-Horse dies of heart attack !

We're all Just Sayin', sweetheart - that's what a discussion forum is. And you are preaching to the converted. Have never, will never take my kids to the circus.
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Old 21.04.2015, 17:00
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Have never, will never take my kids to the circus.
How are they mean't to run off to one, and save you college/university fees and maintenance, if they never go to one?
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Old 21.04.2015, 17:19
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Re: The cruel side of Sechselauten-Horse dies of heart attack !

That's so old fashioned. Besides, they've already drained the bank account. Now we need them to stick close to home (though not IN our home), and save enough bar tips to pay for the best retirement home they can find.
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Old 21.04.2015, 17:29
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to pay for the best retirement home they can find.
so you are aspiring to go to a circus ... of kinds.
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I agree with you on many levels, I just don't have the same emotional attachment to animals and it's not that I don't care but there are way more human tragedies that need fixing first. That's just my opinion - we don't have to agree!
I also care about humans! VERY much. I think serious,immediate attention needs to be brought to the plight of the immigrants trying to escape and dying in the process. The EU ( and the world) needs to address that plight IMMEDIATELY ! I can't stand seeing how desperate people put themselves in such danger. There should be a Greenpeace boat in the Med for people.

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I know I m going off topic, but where did you get THAT from? In Switzerland? If so, I think you might need to do some research first.
1. Some horses/foals are explicitly bred for food consumption --> if they do not get enough points for breeding at the foal show, they end up on the plate. They are in no way drugged or sick, just don't fit the standards for breeding.
2. EVERY horse owner in CH is required to declare his horse in the national database as HEIM or NUTZtier. A HEIMtier, is not allowed to be slaughtered and the meat put up for sale. Because there might be medications etc not tracked in the corps. A NUTZtier owner needs to keep a diary which is regularly checked up by vets in which every single medicine or treatment is recorded. If there are dangerous things or just recently received, the horse meat is not allowed to go into circulation.

These just a few notions of what is going on in CH with CH horse meat.
Someone who knows ! Great that you are so confidant that there are never drugs in your CH horsemeat, but once you step out of CH-land you can find plenty of articles from around the world that these regulations don't apply everywhere. You only need to google and read about it.

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There should be a Greenpeace boat in the Med for people.
Sure, but the French would sink it.

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Sure, but the French would sink it.

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Old 22.04.2015, 12:13
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Re: The cruel side of Sechselauten-Horse dies of heart attack !

An analogous situations, where the males of a species are mandated into extreme physical stress in combat style, and used ceremoniously beyond their abilities of decent health. One noticeable difference, is that when a majestic animal is hurt, people will quickly try and ease and help, one of these males go down---the reaction is not as quick.
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I know I m going off topic, but where did you get THAT from? In Switzerland? If so, I think you might need to do some research first.
1. Some horses/foals are explicitly bred for food consumption --> if they do not get enough points for breeding at the foal show, they end up on the plate. They are in no way drugged or sick, just don't fit the standards for breeding.
2. EVERY horse owner in CH is required to declare his horse in the national database as HEIM or NUTZtier. A HEIMtier, is not allowed to be slaughtered and the meat put up for sale. Because there might be medications etc not tracked in the corps. A NUTZtier owner needs to keep a diary which is regularly checked up by vets in which every single medicine or treatment is recorded. If there are dangerous things or just recently received, the horse meat is not allowed to go into circulation.

These just a few notions of what is going on in CH with CH horse meat.
Just found this :
26 held over horse meat trafficking ring across EU - RTÉ News
http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/.../6967...e-meat-arrests...
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Saturday 25 April 2015 20.40 ... people in a crackdown on a horse meat trafficking ring two years after a tainted meat scandal that rocked the European Union.
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