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Old 28.04.2015, 18:34
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Permanently Avoid Annoying Door Knockers (useful for everyone)

Hi there, I am trying to put a note on my door, which is in both French and German, and which is perfect ***LEGAL***, to **THREATEN** any annoying strangers to knock my door. The basic message is "if anything, please send me a note in the mailbox. Do not ever knock my door. Or I will call the police"

This is after a stranger knocking my door rudely, and possibly trying to break in, and disturbed my family very much, while I was at work .

Dear forum members, please help draft such a note. Jokes are welcome. Besides that, please give me the words that really works.

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Old 28.04.2015, 18:46
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Re: Permanently Avoid Annoying Door Knockers (useful for everyone)

What do you mean by "possibly breaking in" ? It seems a binary sort of thing, either they did or they didn't.

Why do you think a threatening sign will help in any way? Anyone genuinely up to no good is going to completely ignore it.

A basic polite "no door sales, canvassing, etc etc" will deter anyone who's deterable. One of those barking dog devices would probably help with the others, but kind of breaks the disturbing the family bit.
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Old 28.04.2015, 18:46
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Re: Permanently Avoid Annoying Door Knockers (useful for everyone)

Swiss law is derivided from the teachings of Yoda. When it comes to calling the police or going to a lawyer there is do or do not - there is no threaten.
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Hi there, I am trying to put a note on my door, which is in both French and German, and which is perfect ***LEGAL***, to **THREATEN** any annoying strangers to knock my door. The basic message is "if anything, please send me a note in the mailbox. Do not ever knock my door. Or I will call the police"

This is after a stranger knocking my door rudely, and possibly breaking in, and disturbed my family very much, while I was at work .

Dear forum members, please help draft such a note. Jokes are welcome. Besides that, please give me the words that really works.
Looks like a first Jehova experience
Don't worry, they are harmless.
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Old 28.04.2015, 18:51
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Re: Permanently Avoid Annoying Door Knockers (useful for everyone)

This is quite amusing:

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Old 28.04.2015, 19:29
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Re: Permanently Avoid Annoying Door Knockers (useful for everyone)

When I worked in sales, many moons ago, I did my share of door knocking.
Signs like: "I don't buy at the door" and "No Solicitors" were ignored with relish - in fact it was seen as a buying signal; that the householder was over-compensating for their fear of being a soft touch and a lay-down.

Sometimes I was right - sometimes not ..... but every door was knocked - it would've been unfair not give everyone the same opportunity.
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Re: Permanently Avoid Annoying Door Knockers (useful for everyone)

I had this up when we were in a popular area for unsolicited disturbances. If anyone ignored it, they knew they would get a rude reaction. Before that I was polite & couldn't get rid of people for ages (especially endless security salesmen), but putting up the sign to me meant the were forewarned. Worked well on the whole. Just one that decided he was offering advice - to which I gave him some back.
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Old 28.04.2015, 19:52
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Re: Permanently Avoid Annoying Door Knockers (useful for everyone)

In the UK there is a concept known as removal of implied right of access. If you put a sign up to that effect, anybody trying to sell you anything is in effect trespassing. I don't know if there is a Swiss equivalent to that.
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Old 28.04.2015, 19:55
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What do you mean by "possibly breaking in" ?
The original post is edited from "possibly breaking in" -> "trying to break in". No way to know his real attention. From inside the door handle rotated again and again (normal sales men do not do that, or do they)

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Why do you think a threatening sign will help in any way?
The point is to distinguish to a certain extent rude sales man from sb. with bad intention (thief, robbery, etc.), so that we can call the police in time.....
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Old 28.04.2015, 20:04
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The original post is edited from "possibly breaking in" -> "trying to break in". No way to know his real attention. From inside the door handle rotated again and again (normal sales men do not do that, or do they)
Billag is not beyond using a bit of intimidation and violence.

http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/zuerich/...zeren-18852038

Remember these people are payed a commission per sale and as the end of the month approaches and they're missing their quorum, they can get quite desperate.

I've had Billag rattle my door handle time while forcefully trying to open it and at the same time ringing the bell non stop.

They only calmed down when I turned a video camera on them and asked what the matter was. When I said that by continuing this conversation they were agreeing to this being posted on Youtube they walked away and I've been left in peace since.
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Old 28.04.2015, 21:38
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Remember these people are payed a commission per sale and as the end of the month approaches and they're missing their quorum...
So they need enough of them for a decision to be binding?
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Old 28.04.2015, 21:43
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When I worked in sales, many moons ago, I did my share of door knocking.
Ha, now there's a surprise!
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Old 28.04.2015, 21:56
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The original post is edited from "possibly breaking in" -> "trying to break in". No way to know his real attention. From inside the door handle rotated again and again (normal sales men do not do that, or do they)


The point is to distinguish to a certain extent rude sales man from sb. with bad intention (thief, robbery, etc.), so that we can call the police in time.....
do you have a concierge and how do they get into your building? i would complain to the concierge- i know our concierge is really on top of people entering and if someone came and i called him, he would certainly be happy to take care of them and escort them out...
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Old 28.04.2015, 22:45
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Re: Permanently Avoid Annoying Door Knockers (useful for everyone)

I have been insulted directly and subtly by these insurance, cablecom even red cross (and i donated!) people. :-(
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Old 28.04.2015, 22:55
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I've always been a bit of a knockers fan, myself.
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Old 28.04.2015, 23:44
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Old 29.04.2015, 08:47
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Re: Permanently Avoid Annoying Door Knockers (useful for everyone)

Home security is a bit like being a wildebeast. It is not a case of needing to be faster than the lion - but being faster than the other wildebeast.

Your home doesn't need to stop an intruder it just has to appear more difficult to break into than your neighbour's.
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Re: Permanently Avoid Annoying Door Knockers (useful for everyone)

I lost my rag at the security salesmen that left hotel hanging things on everyones doors if they didn't answer when they rang to say if we know you're out, so do the burglars. In fact I wasn't out as I had looked thru the peephole & didn't open the door. They came back 2 hours later & rang again. I am usually a polite calm person but they were treated to me shouting at the top of my voice & having their hanger being ripped to shreds & thrown in their faces. It was after that episode I made the sign above.
I don't care if they have a quota. Do not disturb my in my own home or try to sell me anything at the door. If I want something I will go to a shop or look online for it.
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Old 29.04.2015, 09:12
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I lost my rag at the security salesmen that left hotel hanging things on everyones doors if they didn't answer when they rang to say if we know you're out, so do the burglars.

I don't care if they have a quota. Do not disturb my in my own home or try to sell me anything at the door. If I want something I will go to a shop or look online for it.
Maybe you need better security?

In business school, isn't this called creating market demand?

Maybe someone will stop by your house selling a security solution for this?
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Old 29.04.2015, 09:52
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Re: Permanently Avoid Annoying Door Knockers (useful for everyone)

if somebody has to cross your garden to knock at yor door (without having been implicity invited ie the postman), is this legally considered trespassing?
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