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Re: Speaking swiss german in presence of non-Swiss

Most people of the world cannot expect locals of where they have move to to switch to their language- and just have to sink or swim. I've never heard an Anglo-Saxon switch to Serbo-Croat, Bengali or Telegu... But they do complain bitterly where communities in the UK dare speak their own language among themselves. One of my French students visiting Leicester was beaten up for speaking French to his student friend.

Anglo-Saxons really do expect different treatment all the time- again the 'expat' versus 'foreigner' thing (yes, i know, English is currently the lingua franca of the world- suits me- as I do not speak Telegu or Bengali, Serbo Croat or indeed, Swiss German) Adieu Mittenand.
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Old 14.06.2015, 21:01
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Anglo-Saxons really do expect different treatment all the time
No they don't.
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Re: Speaking swiss german in presence of non-Swiss

Sorry DB- no sweeping generalisations some, too many, do (and thankfully some don't ... OP is a German speaker anyhow).
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Old 14.06.2015, 21:10
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Sorry DB- no sweeping generalisations some, too many, do (and thankfully some don't ... OP is a German speaker anyhow).
In almost every case where someone has started a thread complaining about Swiss people refusing to speak English, the OP has been a non-native speaker of English.

Also, your comments about nobody in the United Kingdom accommodating speakers of other languages are way off.

But it's Sunday night, and everyone's hot and sweaty. I think we can all be excused for talking cobblers.
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Most people of the world cannot expect locals of where they have move to to switch to their language- and just have to sink or swim. I've never heard an Anglo-Saxon switch to Serbo-Croat, Bengali or Telegu... But they do complain bitterly where communities in the UK dare speak their own language among themselves. One of my French students visiting Leicester was beaten up for speaking French to his student friend.

Anglo-Saxons really do expect different treatment all the time- again the 'expat' versus 'foreigner' thing (yes, i know, English is currently the lingua franca of the world- suits me- as I do not speak Telegu or Bengali, Serbo Croat or indeed, Swiss German) Adieu Mittenand.
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Hi all,

I don't know if you also have this problem with "some" Swiss colleagues at work. I've been working in a few countries, and meet nice people around the world who always try to include other foreigners in a conversation.

Just when I thought it's already a universal courtesy & good manners in 21st century, to speak a common language ( in this case English) in midst of your foreign colleagues, I am baffled by the behaviours of some immature colleagues who keep on babbling in Swiss German while in a close group conversations or even in a meeting, despite obvious hints!

I sometimes wonder if they were taught with a different code of manners here... just need to let out...
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Don't let the groaners get you down !
You really love that victim card, don't you?

Go on, here's a bit of attention. Now go play nice with the other children.
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In almost every case where someone has started a thread complaining about Swiss people refusing to speak English, the OP has been a non-native speaker of English.

Also, your comments about nobody in the United Kingdom accommodating speakers of other languages are way off.

But it's Sunday night, and everyone's hot and sweaty. I think we can all be excused for talking cobblers.
I speak fluent German and my problem is that swiss DONT want to speak German and would prefer English !
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Old 15.06.2015, 07:56
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You really love that victim card, don't you?

Go on, here's a bit of attention. Now go play nice with the other children.

Judging by the amount of puking she does on this forum, I think her problem is more intestinal.
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Old 15.06.2015, 08:07
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Re: Speaking swiss german in presence of non-Swiss

You do all realise that the original poster has never posted again on this thread, right? Just an observation.
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Old 15.06.2015, 11:37
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You do all realise that the original poster has never posted again on this thread, right? Just an observation.
Oh, I thought it's already been established that the OP was a troll
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Old 15.06.2015, 22:43
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Re: Speaking swiss german in presence of non-Swiss

i just read the headline and it screams "troll" all over the place. any need to go into reading these four pages of proably nonsense?
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Re: Speaking swiss german in presence of non-Swiss

Don't think so, but I didn't bother either. According to post #70 the OP hasn't replied at all...
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i just read the headline and it screams "troll" all over the place.
Yes but EFers don't really need a subject to get all up in arms...
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Re: Speaking swiss german in presence of non-Swiss

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...how else will you learn?

my experience, if Swiss wants you in their conversation they usually switch to high german or english, if they keep ranting on their own dialect means not so much...

From where I come from, it is good manners to learn and understand the language where you live

Correct. E.g. if one is discussing which locations are worth being considered or discussed (in English). Also: we're not used to it. Very hard to meet you guys if not working with the English. In a pub I never experienced any major interest of anyone in a chat or something other than the question whether the seat was free. Finally: sympathy. swiss don't want that you listen to that awful Swiss-English (swinglish if you want so). Swiss German is an excellent language to destory the sound of just about every other language. Works brilliantly with French, Italian, Spanish, you name it. Hope that helps
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I speak fluent German and my problem is that swiss DONT want to speak German and would prefer English !
I expect that's amongst the smallest of your problems.
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Re: Speaking swiss german in presence of non-Swiss

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I find that people always do their best to include people that they like and who matter to them. Furthermore, most people prefer to express themselves in their native language, so unless you matter greatly to them, they will have to constantly remind themselves to talk in a language that they don't really master. And if you are going to call them rude amd backward for that, you won't make friends - especially as it's more likely laziness. How long have you been here for? Are you taking language classes?
Obviously, I have been referring to the Swiss who can speak English eloquently; that's why I put it up as a point of valid discussion. Ironically, the term "laziness" is more appropriately applicable to them (and probably some here too..)

And, yes, I am socially adaptable and care enough to learn German as a new hobby. If I care enough to make an effort, please reciprocate and make the same effort to speak your "fully-mastered" language, English, when the situations call for it.


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You do all realise that the original poster has never posted again on this thread, right? Just an observation.
omg... such an obnoxious entry. Too busy to entertain you, Mister

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Obviously, I have been referring to the Swiss who can speak English eloquently; that's why I put it up as a point of valid discussion. Ironically, the term "laziness" is more appropriately applicable to them (and probably some here too..)

And, yes, I am socially adaptable and care enough to learn German as a new hobby. If I care enough to make an effort, please reciprocate and make the same effort to speak your "fully-mastered" language, English, when the situations call for it.
You are so magnanimous to learn the local language as a hobby, I can't understand why they don't want to talk to you, eloquently or not

But at least you're making friends here now... oh, maybe not. Ho hum.
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Yes but EFers don't really need a subject to get all up in arms...
Sounds like a phrase coming out from a 5th grader

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You are so magnanimous to learn the local language as a hobby, I can't understand why they don't want to talk to you, eloquently or not

But at least you're making friends here now... oh, maybe not. Ho hum.
I am indeed magnanimous. That's why I forgive you, child.

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Re: Speaking swiss german in presence of non-Swiss

It happens to me several times, but I just get it as motivation to learn swiss german!U should do the same!
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