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Stay on YOUR side of the road ....

Just spent a week in the Alps, in Leukerbad, and visited several areas in the Upper Valais... and were amazed by the number of people who take bends on the wrong side of the road! On the way to Saas-Fee, some idiot driving a motor-home came out of a tunnel coming down from Saas completely over the line and completely smashed our right-side mirror - and could have been a lot worse if OH was not keeping way off the middle line. Grrr...
the only one who hit us, but one of so many driving right over the line- both Swiss and foreign plates!

Later edit : We have a right hand drive Discovery, it was our brother-in-law who nearly 'got it' ... and he was really shaken, poor thing. The motorhome came out of the tunnel in middle of the road, and it all happened so fast- no time to even notice if it was Swiss or foreign - s/he knew full well they had hit us hard- but didn't stop. Sorry, but I hope they suffered significant damage!

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Re: Stay on YOUR side of the road ....

Yikes.
Was there any chance of you getting at least part of this guy's license plate number?
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Old 12.07.2015, 18:17
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Re: Stay on YOUR side of the road ....

I'm seriously considering getting a dash-cam.
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Sorry, but I hope they suffered significant damage!
It was an accident. There is no need for that
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It was an accident. There is no need for that
Yes, but an accident which was caused by the other driver, who was over the white line and then failed to stop.
Just glad that it wasn't worse and nobody was injured.
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Re: Stay on YOUR side of the road ....

Exactly, thanks. Driver of Motorhome was not on line or just over, but about a 30cm over line! That is no 'accident' but sheer bad and dangerous driving. We stopped after the tunnel in lay-by to try and fix the broken and hanging parts with elastoplast from emergency kit- and waited 20 mins- hoping the driver would return and apologise + give insurance detail- but he didn't..

Both sil and myself could have been seriously injured if OH had been closer to line. Having spent over 6 months of my life, including our wedding, in hospital, with 2 years to learn to walk again- and now requiring full knee replacement due to that injury nearly 45 years ago- I beg to differ. I'm sure you would too, had you seen the extreme suffering of a loved one because of a stupid and totally careless driver who did not bother to stop!
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Re: Stay on YOUR side of the road ....

Never been to that stretch of road but was the tunnel by any chance height/width restricted? The driver may have tried to avoid scraping on the inside of the tunnel? Was there limited visibility at the exit? Did he sound the horn?

Not saying what he did was right, just looking for some reasonable explanations. He should have stopped after the accident by any means - for that at least you can complain to the police.
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Re: Stay on YOUR side of the road ....

Last week, I was driving back home when the car in the next lane was going a bit in zigzag, crossing over my side of the line, going back in his lane, etc..

I managed to pass him and saw that he was on his phone texting!!!!

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Never been to that stretch of road but was the tunnel by any chance height/width restricted? The driver may have tried to avoid scraping on the inside of the tunnel? Was there limited visibility at the exit? Did he sound the horn?

Not saying what he did was right, just looking for some reasonable explanations. He should have stopped after the accident by any means - for that at least you can complain to the police.
As far as I can see, the only explanation for what he did is that he was driving dangerously, whether he was speeding, not concentrating, texting, drunk, or just a rubbish driver, he was in the wrong.
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Re: Stay on YOUR side of the road ....

We all have to install dash cameras
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Yes, but an accident which was caused by the other driver, who was over the white line and then failed to stop.
Just glad that it wasn't worse and nobody was injured.
I'm glad it wasn't worse but clearly odile wanted some major damage to the other person. Not on and such a shame.
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. I'm sure you would too, had you seen the extreme suffering of a loved one because of a stupid and totally careless driver who did not bother to stop!
I'd never wish harm on anyone else regardless of what they did to me. In this case just a broken mirror...hardly cause to hope significant damage to the other party

Glad you're all OK and hope everyone in the other car is OK too and that they learn to drive more carefully
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Never been to that stretch of road but was the tunnel by any chance height/width restricted? The driver may have tried to avoid scraping on the inside of the tunnel? Was there limited visibility at the exit? Did he sound the horn?

Not saying what he did was right, just looking for some reasonable explanations. He should have stopped after the accident by any means - for that at least you can complain to the police.
I did wonder the same. If it were the case, shouldn't there have been a warning sign that there could be oncoming vehicles in the middle of the road? Either way, it should have stopped
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Re: Stay on YOUR side of the road ....

I loose wing mirrors all the time. More in the UK than here due to driving habits. I grew up in an era when a mirror was just a mirror, no heating,rain sensors electric bits and all that and am always taken aback when I get the bill. No-one has ever stopped. Including me. the first one I clipped was in the Fulham Road around 1974.
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Re: Stay on YOUR side of the road ....

Was it a double line, a single line, or a dotted line?

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Re: Stay on YOUR side of the road ....

I've noticed a lot more cars 'weaving' around in the last year or so.. it's idiots txting/farting around on their phones

As a 'sunday motorbike rider', I'm starting to seriously wonder if that's getting too risky
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Never been to that stretch of road but was the tunnel by any chance height/width restricted? The driver may have tried to avoid scraping on the inside of the tunnel? Was there limited visibility at the exit? Did he sound the horn?

Not saying what he did was right, just looking for some reasonable explanations. He should have stopped after the accident by any means - for that at least you can complain to the police.
No, no restrictions- wide tunnel with a single line and finishing on a bend. He was just going too fast and was deported to wrong side due to speed and bend, going downhill... no excuse. He could so easily have stopped a little further down the road (we checked when we returned- plenty of stopping places where s/he could have safely stopped right after and turned back. The BANG was really loud and the whole car shuddered- so s/he can't have not noticed. As said, if OH had been a bit further out, it would have been a whole different story.

I never wished for the people to be injured, but that they would deserve physical damage to the motorhome- not for the accident as such, although it was due to very bad careless driving... but for not stopping and coming back- as we waited patiently. Hopefully insurance will pay without penalty as we have full casco- but s/he didn't know that- and it's going to be expensive.

Those who know my OH will tell you he is one of the best and most careful, considerate driver ever.

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Was it a double line, a single line, or a dotted line?

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I loose wing mirrors all the time. More in the UK than here due to driving habits. I grew up in an era when a mirror was just a mirror, no heating,rain sensors electric bits and all that and am always taken aback when I get the bill. No-one has ever stopped. Including me. the first one I clipped was in the Fulham Road around 1974.

Are you driving a truck or what?
Driving close to the middle in day time is a peculiar habit which I have no rational explanation for. Since 24 years and hundreds thousands km, including wide van and minivans, no mirror lost so far, but many times watched carefully when oncoming cars were cutting a corner and driving on "my" lane. The only remedy is to take the leg off the accelerator before a curve and have it ready on the brake. That's the survival lesson from my country where it is not impossible o see cars overtaking on corners without visibility - I've had two or three near misses.
So slow down a bit, have the foot on the brake ready, and keep to the right.
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Re: Stay on YOUR side of the road ....

My sympathies are with Odile here, driving on or over the central line seems to have become a common problem everywhere, not sure why, although lack of attention due to 'distractions' such as mobile phones, GPS, music, etc. is quite possible.
A few hundred metres from where I live there's a blind bend on a narrow road... it is wide enough for two cars but you do need to pay attention and keep to your side of the road.
Three times in the fifteen years we've lived here there have been collisions serious for the cars involved to be forced to stop. Heavens only knows how many near misses there have been.
My sons have learnt to keep as far to the right-hand side of the road as possible and (fortunately) drove classic Minis, which are tiny, narrow cars, as they've had several close shaves despite giving way as much as is humanly possible. If they'd met cars in the middle of the road and been driving a 'normal' car they'd have stood no chance.

The men in my family are totally convinced that all new drivers (at least in the French-speaking part of the world) are taught to line the middle of their car up with the convienient white line some kind soul has painted down the middle of the road for that very purpose!
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