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The Supreme products at Migros (dishwasher product and the liquid for cleaning the inside etc.) is on 50% off special this week if you want to stock up.
Don't stock up too much on dishwasher detergent. It loses potency with age. (Same applies to laundry detergents, too.)
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Don't stock up too much on dishwasher detergent. It loses potency with age. (Same applies to laundry detergents, too.)

Bit like us humans then
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Not that long ago I had a new kitchen installed and unfortunately made the bad decision of purchasing Siemens appliances (Oven, Steam Oven, Induction Hob, Plate Warmer, Fridge Freezer and a Dishwasher) at the same time.

*** Steam Oven ***
After 12 months it lost its non-return valve from the water tank. To their credit, the shop replaced the tank with a new one, but the valve again fell out again after 6 months.
When steam oven oven heats up, the small fan which initially emits a quiet hum, changes to a rattling noise which continues until the oven has cooled down.

*** Plate warmer ***
After warming up it starts to emit an annoying buzzing noise, which continues until you switch it off.

*** Dishwasher ****
This is by far the worst dishwasher I've ever encountered.
It doesn't seem to matter what combination of salt, rinse agents, tablets, powders, washer boosters, temperature settings, water hardness settings I use, the results are generally extremely poor.
When I returned to shop to obtain the replacement faulty water tank for the steam oven, I mentioned this to the guy in the shop and he admitted that he had the same problems at home with his Siemens DW and he thought it was due to the minimum amount of water the machine is using!!!!

Furthermore a colleague at work recently renovated her kitchen (in France) and I warned her about the Siemens dishwasher problems. Unfortunately for her, she had already received a Siemens machine ... now 6 months on, she is also cursing this crap appliance.

We both agreed that the only way to get half decent results is to use the hottest "pot wash".

What is even more frustrating, is that I've used far cheaper machines, which time and time again, produce excellent results.

I should have taken my German colleagues advice, which was "If it involves water, always buy Miele", hence when I recently bought a washing machine, I paid the extra and I've never regretted it ... outstanding machine.
Could you be precise and give the reference number of these appliances?
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Re: Siemens kitchen appliances!!!!

OK, now I've had enough.

Last night a pool of water appeared on the kitchen floor. On further investigation, I found that the dishwasher was full of water.

I tried resetting the machine, which activates the pump. End result ... water still in machine.

Emptied the machine by hand, checked all filters, removed the trap the sink and the pipe from the machine, but no evidence of food blockages ... everything extremely clean.

Started a new program, which resulted in water coming out of the bottom of the machine.

Now I have to decide, do I try and fix it myself, find a local repair guy (any recommendations for someone in Basel), or to go and buy a new machine.
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Re: Siemens kitchen appliances!!!!

Does it leak because you think there's a blockage and it's gotten too full?
Does it start to leak while it's filling?
Does it leak when it's full and washing?
Does it leak only when trying to empty but it can't?
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OK, now I've had enough.


Started a new program, which resulted in water coming out of the bottom of the machine.
I read your post again, remove the panels and see if you can see where it's leaking from. You might have a split pipe somewhere or maybe a pump has gone bad, i.e. the seals have gone or the housing has cracked.

Otherwise a couple of hundred will get you a new one from the Rheincenter :-)
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Re: Siemens kitchen appliances!!!!

I also have a water softener.

At best I would estimate we use the machine twice per week.

Also I always check the filters after each use.
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I read your post again, remove the panels and see if you can see where it's leaking from. You might have a split pipe somewhere or maybe a pump has gone bad, i.e. the seals have gone or the housing has cracked.

Otherwise a couple of hundred € will get you a new one from the Rheincenter :-)
Last night I had a quick look again (need the weekend, to pull out the machine and open her up).

I can easily turn the impeller of the pump, so it's not blocked.

I completely dried out the small reservoir/space under the filters, checked everything again and then started the program.

End result was lots of whirring, which did not sound normal.

Opening the machine after a few minutes, there was a small amount of water in the reservoir, but no additional water on the floor.

Buying a new machine ... yes I like that idea. It's just a question of which brand. I purchased a Miele washing machine and separate dryer and I've been extremely happy with them so far however they are still less than 2yrs old.

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