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Old 17.09.2015, 13:10
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Why should I be expected to learn French to work for an English speaking company in German speaking Switzerland?
Absolutely, I agree. Whether that particular francophone group sees it the same...looks like not. It is a frequent phenomenon. Maybe if OP comments a few times how wonderful their English is, they might feel more confident about using it.
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Old 17.09.2015, 15:10
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Absolutely, I agree. Whether that particular francophone group sees it the same...looks like not. It is a frequent phenomenon. Maybe if OP comments a few times how wonderful their English is, they might feel more confident about using it.
They're all fluent.. otherwise they wouldnt have been employed here.

Went out for lunch today though, joined a friend for Coffee.
Always nice to have a change.

French class again tonight
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Old 17.09.2015, 16:33
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French people can be very rude and disrespectful. .
Oh really.. As well as Belgians
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Old 17.09.2015, 16:55
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Re: That excluded feeling

Typical French, don't sweat it.
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Old 17.09.2015, 16:59
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Re: That excluded feeling

Typical swiss French, maybe
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Old 17.09.2015, 17:01
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Re: That excluded feeling

"However, today, one person deliberately switched to French so they could exclude me from the conversation. They were planning a meal out and were checking with each other in French if they should include me… IN FRONT OF ME"

Missed out on a night spent with a bunch of Frenchies... I'd view that as a lucky escape
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Re: That excluded feeling

Every French guy/girl I know is exactly the same. Even as tourists on other countries they will speak in French to you as if anyone speaks it.

It's a mixture of how bad their English are and them being somewhat chauvinists too.
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Old 17.09.2015, 17:21
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Re: That excluded feeling

3 groans? for what?


Posting in complaints corner.
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3 groans? for what?

Posting in complaints corner.
Welcome to EF Is par for the course... don't take the groans seriously.
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3 groans? for what?


Posting in complaints corner.
What's the big deal? Looking at how many thank you's you got for this thread, 3 groans are negligible.
People don't always explain their reasons for a thank you/groan, btw.
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Re: That excluded feeling

Maybe your colleagues know or suspect you speak better French than you let on and are not so happy they you pretend not to understand, whilst in fact you are eavesdropping......

Another added benefit, to you is, you'll learn French far quicker and better if you are thrown in at the deep end, rather than continually wrapped in cotton wool with everything in English for your benefit

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Old 17.09.2015, 18:07
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Oh really.. As well as Belgians
Maybe but this thread isn't about Belgians it's about the French.
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Old 17.09.2015, 18:45
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Maybe but this thread isn't about Belgians it's about the French.
this thread is about a narrow minded tendency to generalize.
I also generalize towards Swisses... sometimes. Yeah, I admit, it happens )))

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this thread is about a narrow minded tendency to generalize.
I said 'the French can be rude NOT ''the French are rude!

The first is my impression of them from first hand experience the second would have been a generalisation.

You clearly have a affinity with the French so could be biased but having lived in France for a considerable length of time I have enough experience of French people to know that they CAN be rude at times. This doesn't mean that they all are.
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Re: That excluded feeling

Let me guess the department you work in is:-diversity and inclusion. Seriously sorry you are feeling excluded but it won't be personal but even so it isn't nice.
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Old 17.09.2015, 19:40
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You clearly have a affinity with the French
My day starts with La Marseillaise
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