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Old 06.10.2015, 12:31
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I hope it includes the Swiss quality hiking and ski weekends in mountains, which is the top 1 argument I get when I underline some lesser quality aspect of Swiss life. Otherwise, they'll never reach their goal.
The Singaporean quality of scuba diving weekends beat the Swiss ones any day. And the wake boarding ones do at least 10 out of 12 months of the year...
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Old 06.10.2015, 12:35
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The 'musical chairs office' is just normal practise now in London too. Not to do with cost cutting, but practicalities and rational use of space and facilities- and this even at Senior Partner level.
Everything to do with cost cutting. The goal of hot desking is to reduce rented office space, and thus cost. Ditto working from home - one day a week means that the company reduce office space and expenses by 20%.

The 'rational use' or 'work/life balance' arguments are window dressing. Especially in the case of hot desking where management needs to sell an unpleasant change to their interchangeable and replaceable resources employees.
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Old 06.10.2015, 12:39
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The Singaporean quality of scuba diving weekends beat the Swiss ones any day. And the wake boarding ones do at least 10 out of 12 months of the year...
Add the food to it and the Singaporeans already exceeded their "quality of life-goal".

Singapore has a lot to learn from western countries, with or without Switzerland, but quality of life is not the place to start...
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You're absolutely right. I remember reading about Singapore's ambition to become the Asian Switzerland while living there. And while it is in many aspects, the cost of living and lifestyle are pretty different. When a Singaporean friend and I compare our respective lives, we find that they are both very nice but very different and that it would be close to impossible to transpose my Swiss life to Singapore or vice versa.
As a Singaporean now living in Switzerland, I have to absolutely agree! I think a lot of Singaporeans still hold onto this idea that Switzerland is an aspirational state we should strive to achieve.

Life in Singapore is of a really high standard (especially if you think of South East Asia in general), so much so that my expat friends call Singapore the "introductory module" to living in Asia.

I think in general, the "hygiene factors" like healthcare, housing, education are similar in quality but it is a very different life, linked to many other factors such as geography (I can't ski for nuts don't know any Singaporean who actually knows how but skiiing is like benchmark for a good life here in Switzerland), history (We're a really young country with pretty widespread extreme poverty just 50 years ago), culture etc...

So... not an apples to apples comparison. It's my country so please allow me to say it's actually a pretty nice place to live in, and just like Switzerland, it can be a GREAT place to live in if you're rich.
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Old 06.10.2015, 12:44
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The 'rational use' or 'work/life balance' arguments are window dressing. Especially in the case of hot desking where management needs to sell an unpleasant change to their interchangeable and replaceable resources employees.
Would just like to add that I have 2 permanent desks too - CH efficiency
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As a Singaporean now living in Switzerland, I have to absolutely agree! I think a lot of Singaporeans still hold onto this idea that Switzerland is an aspirational state we should strive to achieve.

Life in Singapore is of a really high standard (especially if you think of South East Asia in general), so much so that my expat friends call Singapore the "introductory module" to living in Asia.

I think in general, the "hygiene factors" like healthcare, housing, education are similar in quality but it is a very different life, linked to many other factors such as geography (I can't ski for nuts don't know any Singaporean who actually knows how but skiiing is like benchmark for a good life here in Switzerland),
I thought that Singapore was cleaner than Switzerland when I visited a few years ago!

Why do some people wax lyrical about ski-ing - as I've said on this Forum before, I consider mountains, ski-ing and especially snow, grossly over-rated!
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Old 06.10.2015, 12:59
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Why do some people wax lyrical about ski-ing - as I've said on this Forum before, I consider mountains, ski-ing and especially snow, grossly over-rated!
I completely agree with you. The mountains are lovely to look at especially when covered in snow and snow is fine as long as it's not interfering with my daily life.

I can't see the attraction in flinging oneself off the top of a mountain on two bits of wood ( ok I know skis are not made from wood these days) personally.
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So... not an apples to apples comparison. It's my country so please allow me to say it's actually a pretty nice place to live in, and just like Switzerland, it can be a GREAT place to live in if you're rich.
Miss the country every day. My colleagues in our SG office keep on teasing me by sending me photos of their lunches whenever they are having my favourites... today it was apparently Din Tai Fung.
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I completely agree with you. The mountains are lovely to look at especially when covered in snow and snow is fine as long as it's not interfering with my daily life.

I can't see the attraction in flinging oneself off the top of a mountain on two bits of wood ( ok I know skis are not made from wood these days) personally.
Fair enough- could it be, perhaps ... your derrière talking here
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Old 06.10.2015, 14:34
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Re: Not so pleasant trip back home

Alot of us prefer the Aprés Ski!!!
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Re: Not so pleasant trip back home

Après-ski is 1000x more enjoyable after a great skiing, down or cross-country, or snowboarding- honestly. Can never understand how people can enjoy a 'fondue' or 'raclette' in a restaurant in Geneva or Zurich, minus the hiking or skiing before
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Après-ski is 1000x more enjoyable after a great skiing, down or cross-country, or snowboarding- honestly. Can never understand how people can enjoy a 'fondue' or 'raclette' in a restaurant in Geneva or Zurich, minus the hiking or skiing before
That's the same with fish and chips for me - only really appreciated after a day running around on a cold, windswept beach.
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Re: Not so pleasant trip back home

Fish and chips are best appreciated in a car on the seafront with the windscreen wipers going and a flask of tea.

Or in a bus shelter in the rain.

No running around necessary.
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well fair enough- but try doing that with a 'fondue' or 'raclette' though on top of a mountain in the snow!
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While I agree to this for most countries is the situation for the OP a bit different: The Singaporean government has for decades told the population that the number one goal is to get them "Swiss quality of life" since it was usually Zurich or Geneva that topped the various yearly studies on the topic. The press in Singapore re-hashed those references over and over again, so the country has a very specific stereotype that everything in Switzerland must be totally awesome. I heard this a hundred times whenever the rather chatty cabbies or the like asked me from where I moved... the trick is that the perception is not just that the quality is world leading (which is the only thing the government promised) but that it also somehow comes for free. Setting the record straight really bursts their bubble. Taxes (on average much higher in CH than in Singapore), cost of living (housing and cars are cheaper in CH but everything else is MUCH more expensive, so whenever sombody complained about the costs of cars did I tell them how much a dinner in a Swiss restaurant costs...) and life style (both countries are very clean, but in SG is this the case as some low cost worked will tidy your stuff up all the time... ) are the topics worth mentioning and people slowly get the idea that there is more to understand than the one number on the salary slip.

But it is alright now: after the end of Swiss Banking Secrecy, all the gold has flown to Singapore. The OP must demand cash from his relatives next time, as he is living in now cash-strapped Switzerland!
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Re: Not so pleasant trip back home

Business people eat a fast fondue at lunch break, I've seen it! In Geneva, there is no set time for a fondue, it is all the time...because that's all the "middle-class" can afford to eat!
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