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Re: Reversed into dangerously parked neighbour's trailer!

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You sound like the US vessel captain that was requesting the harbour light to change its course or face the consequences!

Actually the rules of the road are very clear... Obstacles parked in a whatever way are just that, obstacles. YOU have to be careful of them!

Last year I parked my car (like a twat, but Geneva being Geneva, there was no other way to leave it) and the car being huge for the street some Jacek scratched in backing up

Anyway, the guy took photos of my parking and declared everything to his insurance. Guess what happened? Insurance found him 100% at fault Even though I was parked very bad. My car was stationary, I can even leave it in the middle of the road, its the guy driving that needs to open his eyes and look around.

Anyway the guy even denounced me to the Police who told him to FO. I got something like 4k out of his insurance for scratching my car.

You even have parking sensors, you heard that annoying noise and still continued to back up?! AG - achtung Gefährt!
You must be very happy there then in the French side.
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Old 06.10.2015, 21:52
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You sound like the US vessel captain that was requesting the harbour light to change its course or face the consequences!

Actually the rules of the road are very clear... Obstacles parked in a whatever way are just that, obstacles. YOU have to be careful of them!

Last year I parked my car (like a twat, but Geneva being Geneva, there was no other way to leave it) and the car being huge for the street some Jacek scratched in backing up

Anyway, the guy took photos of my parking and declared everything to his insurance. Guess what happened? Insurance found him 100% at fault Even though I was parked very bad. My car was stationary, I can even leave it in the middle of the road, its the guy driving that needs to open his eyes and look around.

Anyway the guy even denounced me to the Police who told him to FO. I got something like 4k out of his insurance for scratching my car.

You even have parking sensors, you heard that annoying noise and still continued to back up?! AG - achtung Gefährt!
A friend of mine who is an ex-policeman Blighty told me that technically if you park in a place where you cannot drive, but parking is not explicitly forbidden there, the police can't get you. Even if it is obvious that you must have driven there, the car just being parked there does not constitute proper proof, as there is no reason you couldn't have pushed or carried or helicopter-dropped your car there.
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Old 06.10.2015, 22:00
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A friend of mine who is an ex-policeman Blighty told me that technically if you park in a place where you cannot drive, but parking is not explicitly forbidden there, the police can't get you. Even if it is obvious that you must have driven there, the car just being parked there does not constitute proper proof, as there is no reason you couldn't have pushed or carried or helicopter-dropped your car there.
Few years ago on holidays in Sanremo, I parked badly, me holiday maker next to the Italian lady who had 3/4 of the space left on the adjacent parking lot and she ventured to squeeze in. She was all batshit crazy about the other car (mine) being parked lousily. Well, I was about to ask her wait a minute I can repark for your convenience but she walked away bad tempered. This was exquisite.

Ever since when I'm back in Switzerland, I take too much attention and effort to be more accommodating but then karma accidents like above happen. I should drive that old Toyota Hilux of mine back in RSA with huge bullbar, which all the sedans avoided by meter away
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Re: Reversed into dangerously parked neighbour's trailer!

Ok, for what it is worth ... Herewith is the picture of the loss incurred ...
Silver metallic and quite deep damage. Any EF experts advice on cost limit what one should aim for?
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Old 06.10.2015, 22:48
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Ok, for what it is worth ... Herewith is the picture of the damage incurred ...
Silver metallic and quite deep damage. Any EF experts advice on cost limit what one should aim for?
How old is the car? Some filler + a spray can & you can make a fairly good repair, perfect if slightly dirty for 20 CHF. It all depends what your priorities are, if you were Swiss you would just buy a new car.
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Old 06.10.2015, 22:54
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How old is the car? Some filler + a spray can & you can make a fairly good repair, perfect if slightly dirty for 20 CHF. It all depends what your priorities are, if you were Swiss you would just buy a new car.
It's 2007 model and it's in visually excellent condition. Have done some minor touch up paint repairs before but this one, I'm afraid, the job is well past my artistic skills. Not to mention some broken varnish micro damages. In other words, to be perfect, it needs to be redone professionally.

I was quoted EUR700-1200 in DE and my current insurance will gladly fix it upon the payment of CHF1000 excess.

Just wonder if I should rather keep shopping around across the border. Not in a mood and urgent need of replacing the car yet.
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It's 2007 and it's in visually excellent condition. Have done some minor touch up paint repairs before but this one, I'm afraid, is well past my artistic skills. Not to mention some broken varnish micro damages. In other words, to be perfect, it needs to be redone professionally.

I was quoted EUR700-1200 in DE and my current insurance will gladly fix it upon the payment of CHF1000 excess.

Just wonder if it's shopping around across the border. Not in a mood and urgent need of replacing the car yet.
You should be able to get that done for 300-400 euros in France. I would think you won't pay much more for a 'cash' transaction at http://www.carsen.ch/de/willkommen.html They did some repairs to my BMW, I saw some pretty good paintwork done by their bodyshop. As essentially you will be paying make sure that you stress it's not an insurance job, then the price falls a very long way.
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Old 06.10.2015, 23:02
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Ok, for what it is worth ... Herewith is the picture of the loss incurred ...
Silver metallic and quite deep damage. Any EF experts advice on cost limit what one should aim for?
at least you did not damage your PDC sensors
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Old 06.10.2015, 23:13
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You should be able to get that done for 300-400 euros in France. I would think you won't pay much more for a 'cash' transaction at http://www.carsen.ch/de/willkommen.html They did some repairs to my BMW, I saw some pretty good paintwork done by their bodyshop. As essentially you will be paying make sure that you stress it's not an insurance job, then the price falls a very long way.
I will check them out. IMHO, it's not worth to invest in over one grant of damages on 325i vehicle which clocked up 105,000km. Each to their own, but I believe that sedan of mine it's not worth such pampering. I would rather buy my wife a can of silver metallic nail varnish for years or take her to indulge in the spa

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at least you did not damage your PDC sensors
You can say that again. Lucky me
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Old 07.10.2015, 00:21
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Re: Reversed into dangerously parked neighbour's trailer!

The biggest stuff up of the day though ...

I always have my wife waiting outside when driving out from the garage because those old buildings have seriously narrow clearance between the car and walls for one person only.

What about the PDC's you say. The music from factory mounted speakers buzzes so loud or news on that hardly any other sounds detectable. Normally, my wife works in person better than the rear view cameras. However this time, the warning hand gesture has failed putting sensors on manual i.e. she said I thought you saw it coming ... unf@ckenbelievable
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Re: Reversed into dangerously parked neighbour's trailer!

Note to myself: keep buying cars with unpainted black bumpers. Our car (albeit at slow motion) reared a lamp post, a low trailer, walls in garage, a road builders machine (tail light broken as well), high curb, snow - and not much of a damage to the bumper. Even little dents don't stick out.
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The biggest stuff up of the day though ...

I always have my wife waiting outside when driving out from the garage because those old buildings have seriously narrow clearance between the car and walls for one person only.

What about the PDC's you say. The music from factory mounted speakers buzzes so loud or news on that hardly any other sounds detectable. Normally, my wife works in person better than the rear view cameras. However this time, the warning hand gestured has failed putting sensors on manual i.e. she said I thought you saw it coming ... unf@ckenbelievable
Doesn't your music quieten down when the parking sensors are on? Or are they aftermarket?
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Old 07.10.2015, 00:29
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Note to myself: keep buying cars with unpainted black bumpers. Our car (albeit at slow motion) reared a lamp post, a low trailer, walls in garage, a road builders machine (tail light broken as well), high curb, snow - and not much of a damage to the bumper. Even little dents don't stick out.


What are bumpers for. Serious drivers don't need them!





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Doesn't your music quieten down when the parking sensors are on? Or are they aftermarket?

What? I cannot hear what you are saying ...
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The biggest stuff up of the day though ...

I always have my wife waiting outside when driving out from the garage because those old buildings have seriously narrow clearance between the car and walls for one person only.

What about the PDC's you say. The music from factory mounted speakers buzzes so loud or news on that hardly any other sounds detectable. Normally, my wife works in person better than the rear view cameras. However this time, the warning hand gestured has failed putting sensors on manual i.e. she said I thought you saw it coming ... unf@ckenbelievable


It almost looks like a conspiracy of the world against you.
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Doesn't your music quieten down when the parking sensors are on? Or are they aftermarket?

What sensors? There aren't any. It is a very basic model.
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You should be able to get that done for 300-400 euros in France. I would think you won't pay much more for a 'cash' transaction at http://www.carsen.ch/de/willkommen.html They did some repairs to my BMW, I saw some pretty good paintwork done by their bodyshop. As essentially you will be paying make sure that you stress it's not an insurance job, then the price falls a very long way.
Ok, I will try these guys tomorrow morning. Otherwise, I managed to narrow down my search to two nearby candidates:

1. Hahner & Stoll G. Stoll

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2. KHS Lackiertechnik GmbH

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Re: Reversed into dangerously parked neighbour's trailer!

The problem you have is pushing out the dents in the plastic - not the easiest thing to do an get a perfect finish. You then to fill the gouge and rub back the big scrape to flat - and then prime it.

If you can get that done by yourself I have spray cans of titan-silver and BMW laquer you can use.
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Re: Reversed into dangerously parked neighbour's trailer!

I hope you find someone to do it cheaper then 1000chf 😲

I have a habit of reversing into things, it drives my husband mad. In England the worst reverse job I did was hitting an illegally parked car which was parked behind me, it was pouring rain and I simply didn't see it. I claimed on my insurance but didn't even bother fixing my car, it was a crappy scenic and I hated that car. I did however find out that my insurance paid out over 5k for his scratched bumper. Whatever.
My swiss reversing skills are no better. I got lost in baselland and ended up down a residential street which turned into people's driveways - the road just ended. I panicked and started to try to turn around. I hit a wall as well as a water hydrant. I was going very slowly and only damaged my car back bumper. Doh.
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I got lost in baselland and ended up down a residential street which turned into people's driveways - the road just ended. I panicked and started to try to turn around. I hit a wall as well as a water hydrant. I was going very slowly and only damaged my car back bumper. Doh.
Bloody hell, please never drive to Thalwil.
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Get used to reversing into your space o park your car. Then you can ask him to move the trailer if it's there as it's in your way & shouldn't be parked there. It will also be easier to get out of your space in the morning when your eyes are glued shut with sleepy dust.
If he does that, the next thread will be because he hit the car that illegally used his parking spot

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Nope ... It only shows that some people have been long enough here and they claim right to Swiss joke saying "Achtung Gefahrt". That's the first step you need to become the second generation Swiss in northern cantons IMHO, each time I drive in ZH, I find people driving there like on pills. Serious roadhogs!
Don't you know that ZH is short for "Z'wenig Hirn" (short on brains)?
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