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I always have my wife waiting outside when driving out from the garage
This is not a viable solution either. We took our caravan for a service & wash. The mechanic told my OH he (the mechanic) would reverse the caravan into the car wash as he was more competent at maneuvering them. We agreed - then stood there watching as the mechanic stood on the gas & reversed our beautiful caravan into a pillar taking off 2 side lights & denting the side. He then said it was my fault for not guiding him in. I replied his male chauvinistic attitude of saying he was a superb driver (insert photo of large chimpanzee bashing his chest) stopped me from commenting at all 'cos we all knows what happens when a woman tries to tell a man anything about his driving. After the 2 men discussed the situation, we ended up footing the bill for the materials which they gracefully offered their workmans time.
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Old 07.10.2015, 09:57
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Ok, for what it is worth ... Herewith is the picture of the loss incurred ...
Silver metallic and quite deep damage. Any EF experts advice on cost limit what one should aim for?
I'd just leave it as is.

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she said I thought you saw it coming ... unf@ckenbelievable
Indeed, how could you have seen it coming, it was stationary!

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Old 07.10.2015, 11:04
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Re: Reversed into dangerously parked neighbour's trailer!

My only wish, that it should have happened on Thursday then we would have had a perfect Friday thread.

This thread will have some juice though when discussed between Tue-Wed.

I will find a garage today and update on the story. Hopefully won't find another caravan .

A piece of advice. I will be in ZH this afternoon, so please watch out for AG plates
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This is not a viable solution either. We took our caravan for a service & wash. The mechanic told my OH he (the mechanic) would reverse the caravan into the car wash as he was more competent at maneuvering them. We agreed - then stood there watching as the mechanic stood on the gas & reversed our beautiful caravan into a pillar taking off 2 side lights & denting the side. He then said it was my fault for not guiding him in. I replied his male chauvinistic attitude of saying he was a superb driver (insert photo of large chimpanzee bashing his chest) stopped me from commenting at all 'cos we all knows what happens when a woman tries to tell a man anything about his driving. After the 2 men discussed the situation, we ended up footing the bill for the materials which they gracefully offered their workmans time.
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And you gave somebody like that the keys of your caravan?!

I wouldn't give him a scooter for a 3 year old!
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Old 07.10.2015, 11:28
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A piece of advice. I will be in ZH this afternoon, so please watch out for AG plates
Anyone who's been driving here for a while will already know to do that.

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And you gave somebody like that the keys of your caravan?!

I wouldn't give him a scooter for a 3 year old!
I was more shocked that someone admitted owning a caravan
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Old 07.10.2015, 11:41
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Anyone who's been driving here for a while will already know to do that.

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Old 07.10.2015, 11:47
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Another crappy accident ...

When I came back the whole place is cleared in order, no sign of trailer. Perhaps, I should have taken some pictures on the spot, but leaving in a hurry I did not.
deep inside I feel like it is partially my fault but presence of illegally parked trailer is a huge neighbour's contribution to another sensless expenses. Should I go and have a talk to him to get it off my chest ...?
So I haven't read thru this thread yet, but, so, you didn't get out of your car after an accident occurred and left a note, normally a courteous or respectable thing to do?
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So I haven't read thru this thread yet, but, so, you didn't get out of your car after an accident occurred and left a note, normally a courteous or respectable thing to do?
WTF? Where do you leave the note on the metal frame in the rain to stick to?

Wasn't it your trailer or cart abandoned by any chance? I remember you looked for one ...

If you read the thread you would have found the post where I actually came to see the neighbour.
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WTF? Where do you leave the note on the metal frame in the rain to stick to?

Wasn't it your trailer or cart abandoned by any chance? I remember you looked for one ...

If you read the thread you would have found the post where I actually came to see the neighbour.
Um, it's your problem on how to get a note to stick and stay for the person to read, as you were the one to strike the vehicle. You obviously could find this neighbour later, so, why didn't you leave a note on the door or mailbox of this person? You were in a hurry? That's what people say in hit and run accidents. This is a hit and run accident.
Because I was looking for a trailer in the last year or so, doesn't mean that I parked it oblong in front of your house, and shouldn't be so rude about all of this.
As I said, I hadn't read thru the thread, and responded directly to your first post. It's an accident. Where you stated being a bit pissed that now they person had moved the trailer. Why? Was this person supposed to leave it there indefinitely hoping that note would arrive?

Me personally if I hadn't the ability to find out which neighbour it was, would find a plastic bag and put that note in the bag, and tie it to a very visible area. Because it could involve the police and insurance. And just isn't very nice to smash into anything a peel off because I am late for something, which btw the way the police would say sounds suspicious as perhaps you weren't paying enough due attention to the reverse.

That's all. Just wondering.
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Old 07.10.2015, 12:12
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Um, it's your problem on how to get a note to stick and stay for the person to read, as you were the one to strike the vehicle. You obviously could find this neighbour later, so, why didn't you leave a note on the door or mailbox of this person? You were in a hurry? That's what people say in hit and run accidents. This is a hit and run accident.
Because I was looking for a trailer in the last year or so, doesn't mean that I parked it oblong in front of your house, and shouldn't be so rude about all of this.
As I said, I hadn't read thru the thread, and responded directly to your first post. It's an accident. Where you stated being a bit pissed that now they person had moved the trailer. Why? Was this person supposed to leave it there indefinitely hoping that note would arrive?

Me personally if I hadn't the ability to find out which neighbour it was, would find a plastic bag and put that note in the bag, and tie it to a very visible area. Because it could involve the police and insurance. And just isn't very nice to smash into anything a peel off because I am late for something, which btw the way the police would say sounds suspicious as perhaps you weren't paying enough due attention to the reverse.

That's all. Just wondering.
Sorry mate but your answer was sort of like ...
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And you gave somebody like that the keys of your caravan?!
I wouldn't give him a scooter for a 3 year old!
The caravan was attached to the back of the car so no, we gave him the car keys. I did actually shout at him which is not something I do in general (& am not good at as I lose my French when I am angry) so his workmen all had a good laugh at him (he's the manager).

Yes dodgyken, not only do we have one but love it. Unfortunately not only was it smashed into a pillar that that moron, a German campervan had previously decided to wrap itself around ours trying to park next to ours at the campsite. We know who it was but of course the German police say there's no proof, despite their signature + address on the campsite books when they checked in & a smudge of paint the same colour as their vehicle.
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Old 07.10.2015, 17:58
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Ok, I will try these guys tomorrow morning. Otherwise, I managed to narrow down my search to two nearby candidates:

1. Hahner & Stoll G. Stoll

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2. KHS Lackiertechnik GmbH

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You should be able to get that done for 300-400 euros in France. I would think you won't pay much more for a 'cash' transaction at http://www.carsen.ch/de/willkommen.html They did some repairs to my BMW, I saw some pretty good paintwork done by their bodyshop. As essentially you will be paying make sure that you stress it's not an insurance job, then the price falls a very long way.
Very busy but productive day ...

I embarked on the sightseeing trip to ZH and paid the visit to http://www.carsen.ch/de/willkommen.html. It happened to be the Turkish brothers business and they offered me to do the repair + painting job for CHF750 while keeping the old bumper. The panel beater & painter in one person, happened to be Polish and very experienced indeed, thoughtful guy who provided me with some good advices. He could tell that the bumper was resprayed in the past and worked on, despite normally non-experts wouldn't notice such things with the glance. I saw some of their spectacular jobs in spray room they showed me and old bumpers from this year BMW that was in an accident restored like new. They take lot of work on new cars paid by insurance.

Then I drove all the way back to Baden to my insurance's Help Point to get their evaluation. Unfortunately, after I reduced my premiums, I did not have collision insurance from beginning of this month. Therefore, they could only recommend me a reasonable body repair shop which they would contact on my behalf to pay less but unfortunately would need to finance it myself. When I mentioned to them what competition in ZH quoted me they said that that was rather a good price and I should stick to it, if they were in my shoes. The amount of premiums I paid them anyway over the time - fecken outrages!

Well, I didn't give up yet. I decided to drive to Waldshut-Tiengen and visit the option number one first. The owner spent some half and hour talking to some guy and utterly ignoring me who waited there. Then when I explained to him the problem, he said that it would have taken him days to collect the quotes and come back to me. He wouldn't repair the old bumper but rather get me the new one installed for some EUR1000-1250. At that point, I started missing my Turkish friend in ZH

The last ditch effort happened to be the shop number two from above and bingo! It's a very renown and reasonably priced shop which specializes in restoration of old timers, body works and paint jobs. The owner was very friendly and he quoted me EUR350 + 19%. He also adviced me, if he were me he would still use the existing bumper, which he would fill in with composite/epoxy or other goodies and smoothen it out to its original shape. There is always a question of durability and repair exposed to temperature variations but assured all good. Then I could get my Mwst. back and the whole thing shouldn't cost me more than CHF400 in total. I saw some most amazing body works on Oldsmobiles inside their garage. The most impressive was old Jaguar on which one of the employees was painstakingly working without being bothered by nosy new customer.

I put an appointment for in two weeks. As I was about to leave the garage, another customer in twin door 325xi with AG number plates, his posh spouse arrived to discuss some really minor minuscule scratches less than few cm long on the boot of their baby's ass wax shining car ... At that point Tom shook his head and said in disgust, he wouldn't get it fixed not even in a million years (typical Swiss they should see my indent ...).

Anyhow, after some 125km and even more time invested, I found what I was looking for and hopefully can recommend the garage from the above to others.

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I put an appointment for in two weeks. As I was about to leave the garage, another customer in twin door 325xi with AG number plates, his posh spouse arrived to discuss some really minor minuscule scratches less than few cm long on the boot of their baby's ass wax shining car ...

Did he have a tow hook & a trailer by any chance ?
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Did he have a tow hook & a trailer by any chance ?
Who cares? The moment I saw another AG plates, I left the venue faster than I arrived ...

It was very productive day. I refilled on rum & coke and now I'm off to rugby game RSA vs USA. Well deserved!
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Who cares? The moment I saw another AG plates, I left the venue faster than I arrived ...

It was very productive day. I refilled on rum & coke and now I'm off to rugby game RSA vs USA. Well deserved!

Obviously more rum than coke, you seem more chilled out about it now than earlier !
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Obviously more rum than coke, you seem more chilled out about it now than earlier !
Well, bumping the car is careless. But getting all attention on the EF is priceless, with Springboks winner to boot
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So did you drive after drinking the rum & coke?
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What's a good thing about the area where the garage is located ...

Yesterday, I discovered the most delicious Bacon Clubhouse Beef that I have ever had in my entire life from McDonald's made of 100% local beef

http://www.mcdonalds.de/produkte/pro...clubhouse_beef

There is also a nice coffee shop with terrace in there and area for kids to play. Plenty of parking space to boot. Perfect reclining place for stressed Swiss customers (myself included) on cross-border auto-repair trip to Waldshut-Tiengen
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