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Old 06.10.2015, 17:31
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Reversed into dangerously parked neighbour's trailer!

Another crappy accident ...

As usual, this afternoon I was leaving the covered garage and started reversing my car on the driveway. Before I realized that the PDC sensor picked up somehing unusual and started whailing at its maximum pitch, I already felt that I hit something discernibly narrow which shouldn't normally be there. To my surprise, it was a sharp edged towbar of the trailer which was dangerously sticking out right on my reversing path. Not to even mentioned that the trailer itself shouldn't be parked out there in the first place. So the damage to the bumper, which in experts opinion needs to be replaced, will be around 1000-1500 Sfr. When I came back the whole place is cleared in order, no sign of trailer. Perhaps, I should have taken some pictures on the spot, but leaving in a hurry I did not.

Never mind me being pissed off like hell, deep inside I feel like it is partially my fault but presence of illegally parked trailer is a huge neighbour's contribution to another sensless expenses. Should I go and have a talk to him to get it off my chest ...?
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Old 06.10.2015, 17:36
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Never mind me being pissed off like hell, deep inside I feel like it is partially my fault but presence of illegally parked trailer is a huge neighbour's contribution to another sensless expenses. Should I go and have a talk to him to get it off my chest ...?
You reversed into a stationary object and you want to know whether it's the object's fault?

What you really need to do is sue the manufacturer of your car for fitting inadequate parking sensors
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Re: Reversed into dangerously parked neighbour's trailer!

Just be happy it wasn't an illegaly parked child



Not being (too) snarky. I've done it myself. Not with a child, though. Or a trailer. It was a badly parked, erm, fence-pole.
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Old 06.10.2015, 17:43
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You reversed into a stationary object and you want to know whether it is the objects fault?

What you really need to do is sue the manufacturer of your car for fitting inadequate parking sensors
I know it is a hopeless case and I should only blame myself on not seeing the trailer. My neighbour is an old man with enough problems of his own but how the f@ck having all that space available around him had he chosen the most vulnerable place (for me) on the driveway. The day before, he parked the very same trailer near his garage and probably the sticking towbar must have bothered him so much that he had changed the location deliberately. The whole damned thing of this height I could hardly see when exiting the garage ...


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Re: Reversed into dangerously parked neighbour's trailer!

Why don't you go and have a friendly chat with him- you should have done that straightaway or immediately on your return yesterday- the longer you leave it the harder it will be. Just say it's one of those things- and ask if he can claim on his insurance for the damage- and see what happens. Or offer to go Dutch- he may well be very amiable and accept he was partly responsible.

He may not ...
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Old 06.10.2015, 18:05
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Just say it's one of those things- and ask if he can claim on his insurance for the damage- and see what happens. Or offer to go Dutch- he may well be very amiable and accept he was partly responsible.

He may not ...
I sincerely hope he does not. I mean, we've all (haven't we?) had our share of stupid static objects hitting our cars, but regardless of the fact that the post, pillar or wall shouldn't have been there in the first place I never tried to even partially blame the silly builders that put them there.

Live and learn, Jacek. And go to France (or Germany?) where a new colour-matched bumper (that was the fault of a bank of snow that the beepers were warning me about but I decided to ignore - bloody snowploughs ) for my posh car cost around eu300 + spraying/fitting, something like 500 in total.
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he may well be very amiable and accept he was partly responsible.
He may pop out and inspect his trailer...
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Re: Reversed into dangerously parked neighbour's trailer!

That's the situation plan when I was exiting the garage (my car is highlighted in red). The other cars i.e. black and blue are other neighbours cars. The forelorn trailer in the corner, which I could not easily avoid


Ok. My fault that I reversed my Bimmer with a bit of agility not expecting unexpected.
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That's the situation plan when I was exiting the garage (my car is highlighted in red). The other cars i.e. black and blue are other neighbours cars. The forelorn trailer in the corner, which I could not easily avoid
Unless you'd looked, of course.
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Old 06.10.2015, 18:14
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Re: Reversed into dangerously parked neighbour's trailer!

Nice piccy.

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Just be happy it wasn't an illegaly parked child



Not being (too) snarky. I've done it myself. Not with a child, though. Or a trailer. It was a badly parked, erm, fence-pole.
Similarly - I took out my back window while reversing into a loading bay at mediamarkt.
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Re: Reversed into dangerously parked neighbour's trailer!

Indeedy -but if the guy has got some sort of public liability insurance- he might just say he will try and cover it- you could always offer to pay for the franchise. That's the way we sort things out around here- without blame, anger or trouble. It's great.
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Re: Reversed into dangerously parked neighbour's trailer!

I beginning to suspect you may have drunk too much beer and now have too much estrogen in your system.

A known cure for this is to embark on an intense session of "man maths" - I'd suggest explaining to your wife that upgrading your BMW with PDC to one with "surround-view" would be worthwhile as it will save you regular repair bills.

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That's the situation plan when I was exiting the garage (my car is highlighted in red). The other cars i.e. black and blue are other neighbours cars. The forelorn trailer in the corner, which I could not easily avoid


Ok. My fault that I reversed my Bimmer with a bit of agility not expecting unexpected.
how could you not have spotted the trailer in such a place?

take your loss and pay better attention next time. it happens to everyone.
also, don't forget that you might be liable if the trailer is damaged.
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I sincerely hope he does not. I mean, we've all (haven't we?) had our share of stupid static objects hitting our cars, but regardless of the fact that the post, pillar or wall shouldn't have been there in the first place I never tried to even partially blame the silly builders that put them there.

Live and learn, Jacek. And go to France (or Germany?) where a new colour-matched bumper (that was the fault of a bank of snow that the beepers were warning me about but I decided to ignore - bloody snowploughs ) for my posh car cost around eu300 + spraying/fitting, something like 500 in total.

Just came back from Waldshut and was quoted EUR700-800 for repairing the old plastic rear. However, due to severe puncture damage and even after pushing the whole indent (on the plastic bumper to its original position), the body repair shop suggested to replace the whole thing for EUR1000-1200 because with time it may bulge up and damage will be more visible.


Another option is to claim it back from the insurance in which case it requires an excess of CHF1000 in Switzerland.


If I could beat this price by 400-500 Sfr., I would be more than happy.
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Indeedy -but if the guy has got some sort of public liability insurance- he might just say he will try and cover it- you could always offer to pay for the franchise. That's the way we sort things out around here- without blame, anger or trouble. It's great.
So you are basiclly saying, lets diddle the insurance company again !
Wonder why premiums are so high ?

What insurance claim is their ? The guy backed in to a perfectly VISABLE and STATIONARY object and he wonders who's fault it is ?

Does the bloody trailer have a MENSA rating ?
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Re: Reversed into dangerously parked neighbour's trailer!

The conversation around here would go something like:

'Hi - guess what- I've just hit your trailer reversing- I had not seen it!'

'Arggh you idiot (laugh) can't you open your eyes? - were you drunk again?'

'Hoy, a bit of respect- anyhow why did you park it there you tw*t?'

'I know. I was in a hurry and was just about to move it. Come in for a beer, we will try and sort it out.... Will ring La Mobilière- I'm sure it's covered by my insurance. I'll give them a ring. If it's not- I'll help you find a new bumper and we will get Bob down the road to fix it- he owes me one'.

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Old 06.10.2015, 18:25
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how could you not have spotted the trailer in such a place?

take your loss and pay better attention next time. it happens to everyone.
also, don't forget that you might be liable if the trailer is damaged.

Thanks Mr. Obvious.

Err... How can you damage steel fecken tow bar designed to carry (or withstand) tons in weight versus composite metallic bumper easily dentable?
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Re: Reversed into dangerously parked neighbour's trailer!

I have to say poor observation. You could challenge my ex for myopic car parking incidents.

From the image, it's out of the way and you could have avoided it.
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Re: Reversed into dangerously parked neighbour's trailer!

Get used to reversing into your space o park your car. Then you can ask him to move the trailer if it's there as it's in your way & shouldn't be parked there. It will also be easier to get out of your space in the morning when your eyes are glued shut with sleepy dust.
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Indeedy -but if the guy has got some sort of public liability insurance- he might just say he will try and cover it- you could always offer to pay for the franchise. That's the way we sort things out around here- without blame, anger or trouble. It's great.
Ok, so I had a brief chat (total of 5 min) with my neighbour in German with my Hoch- versus his Schweizerdeutsch. I started from the standpoint how apologetic I felt that I had hit his trailer. His answer, nüt the Trailer should be ok. He has just washed it and packed it away so it shouldn't be an issue in the future. ROFL!

I was sober when driving, but feck now I need a shot of whiskey!
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