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To SVP: Stop picking on Muslim Women

Since this is the complaint's corner ....

Would the SVP please stop joining the very long queue of groups who have been kicking (or stoning) muslim women in the head (both physically and metaphorically) for centuries?

More specifically, can they stop singling out Muslim women by demonizing them in their anti-immigration posters?

Yes, I can appreciate a well articulated argument about their concerns about large scale immigration.

Yes, I can entertain a respectful discussion about their desire to keep alive and thriving classically Swiss traditions, values and culture.

Do they have to make their point by singling out and picking on one of the most oppressed groups of people in the world?

While there are many strong, advantaged muslim women, everyone knows that there are way too many muslim women that have a very rough life with very little rights.

Is the SVP so un-creative that they are incapable of making a successful argument without picking on the people at the bottom of the pile who have little voice or resources?

If the SVP is supposedly full of successful, educated business people and farmers from one of the richest, most stable countries in the world with the best social welfare, why don't they go pick on someone their own size.

I'm very surprised that other SVP members, and the Swiss population at large, is not even more outraged at stuff like this and this kind of smearing and ostracizing hasn't marginalized them to the ridiculousness.

How can they produce such demonizing posters of women of a particular race and still remain a large, viable party?

How can the Swiss, home of the UN, Red Cross and countless world peace organizations, be a beacon of peace for the world and yet a major portion of their politics is not capable of making a respectful argument without demonizing one of the most downtrodden segments of our world population?

How can the Swiss go around the world negotiating peace deals, when they seem to stomach racial demonizing at home?

Too much of the Swiss population at large is tolerating the bar to be set too low. They are much more humane and capable of better than this.
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Old 22.10.2015, 21:35
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Re: To SVP: Stop picking on Muslim Women

There go my hopes for an early night tonight.
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Old 22.10.2015, 21:47
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Since this is the complaint's corner ....

Would the SVP please stop joining the very long queue of groups who have been kicking (or stoning) muslim women in the head (both physically and metaphorically) for centuries?

More specifically, can they stop singling out Muslim women by demonizing them in their anti-immigration posters?

Yes, I can appreciate a well articulated argument about their concerns about large scale immigration.

Yes, I can entertain a respectful discussion about their desire to keep alive and thriving classically Swiss traditions, values and culture.

Do they have to make their point by singling out and picking on one of the most oppressed groups of people in the world?

While there are many strong, advantaged muslim women, everyone knows that there are way too many muslim women that have a very rough life with very little rights.

Is the SVP so un-creative that they are incapable of making a successful argument without picking on the people at the bottom of the pile who have little voice or resources?

If the SVP is supposedly full of successful, educated business people and farmers from one of the richest, most stable countries in the world with the best social welfare, why don't they go pick on someone their own size.

I'm very surprised that other SVP members, and the Swiss population at large, is not even more outraged at stuff like this and this kind of smearing and ostracizing hasn't marginalized them to the ridiculousness.

How can they produce such demonizing posters of women of a particular race and still remain a large, viable party?

How can the Swiss, home of the UN, Red Cross and countless world peace organizations, be a beacon of peace for the world and yet a major portion of their politics is not capable of making a respectful argument without demonizing one of the most downtrodden segments of our world population?

How can the Swiss go around the world negotiating peace deals, when they seem to stomach racial demonizing at home?

Too much of the Swiss population at large is tolerating the bar to be set too low. They are much more humane and capable of better than this.
Thanks for your input ...... I'll pass this on to my superiors, who probably don't visit this site, for obvious reasons.

Although, I do think you might be burking up the wrong tree.
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How can they produce such demonizing posters of women of a particular race and still remain a large, viable party?
What race is that?
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What race is that?
Egg and spoon.
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Egg and spoon.

Is that the annual Egg and Spoon race at the Saudia-Arabian prison for persistent women thieves?
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There go my hopes for an early night tonight.
Why, what are you specialising in tonight, kicking or stoning ?
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Is that the annual Egg and Spoon race at the Saudia-Arabian prison for persistent women thieves?
They look like Romanian gypsies, to me.



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They look like Romanian gypsies, to me.
No, they are Tatars.
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No, they are Tatars.
That's saucy.
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They look like Romanian gypsies, to me.
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Whoa, you just karate chopped Romanian gypsies to the side of the neck. Stop that, they may not like it.
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That's saucy.
Not that kind of Tatar! This kind:
http://www.torontomulticulturalcalendar.com/?s=tatar
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Old 22.10.2015, 23:05
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No, not that kind of joke! The funny kind!

Bloody muslins, coming here and stealing our cotton.
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Are you for real?
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No, they are Tatars.
Best eaten raw, then.
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I dont know why but I get this feeling that we have a phony here. Reminds me of Petra the nice camera woman.

Stur up the pot somewhere else.
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Since this is the complaint's corner ....

Would the SVP please stop joining the very long queue of groups who have been kicking (or stoning) muslim women in the head (both physically and metaphorically) for centuries?

More specifically, can they stop singling out Muslim women by demonizing them in their anti-immigration posters?

Yes, I can appreciate a well articulated argument about their concerns about large scale immigration.

Yes, I can entertain a respectful discussion about their desire to keep alive and thriving classically Swiss traditions, values and culture.

Do they have to make their point by singling out and picking on one of the most oppressed groups of people in the world?

While there are many strong, advantaged muslim women, everyone knows that there are way too many muslim women that have a very rough life with very little rights.

Is the SVP so un-creative that they are incapable of making a successful argument without picking on the people at the bottom of the pile who have little voice or resources?

If the SVP is supposedly full of successful, educated business people and farmers from one of the richest, most stable countries in the world with the best social welfare, why don't they go pick on someone their own size.

I'm very surprised that other SVP members, and the Swiss population at large, is not even more outraged at stuff like this and this kind of smearing and ostracizing hasn't marginalized them to the ridiculousness.

How can they produce such demonizing posters of women of a particular race and still remain a large, viable party?
Objectively speaking, I don't think their aim is to specifically single out and persecute Muslim women, but to use them as the symbol and "poster children" of the oppressive religions and societies that they feel they represent. However yes, I imagine the women concerned look at it and are not too happy about it either.

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How can the Swiss, home of the UN, Red Cross and countless world peace organizations, be a beacon of peace for the world and yet a major portion of their politics is not capable of making a respectful argument without demonizing one of the most downtrodden segments of our world population?

How can the Swiss go around the world negotiating peace deals, when they seem to stomach racial demonizing at home?

Too much of the Swiss population at large is tolerating the bar to be set too low. They are much more humane and capable of better than this.
Because Switzerland has true democracy (or as close as it gets) and free speech? The SVP are just one (admittedly large) political party and regardless of whether we agree with their sentiments or not, they have as much right to legally voice their opinions as any other party.
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Re: To SVP: Stop picking on Muslim Women

Doh! Read that as "Stop picking up Muslim women". My bad.
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Doh! Read that as "Stop picking up Muslim women". My bad.
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Would the SVP please stop joining the very long queue of groups who have been kicking (or stoning) muslim women in the head (both physically and metaphorically) for centuries?
Almost certainly not, even though you asked politely.
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More specifically, can they stop singling out Muslim women by demonizing them in their anti-immigration posters?
This is a bit like the German können / durfen thing - yes they can, no they won't.
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Yes, I can appreciate a well articulated argument about their concerns about large scale immigration.
Hmm, where did you see it well articulated by the SVP??
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Yes, I can entertain a respectful discussion about their desire to keep alive and thriving classically Swiss traditions, values and culture.
see above...
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Do they have to make their point by singling out and picking on one of the most oppressed groups of people in the world?
Mussen / können - no they don't, but they wan't to because it's the easiest cheapest most effective option.
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While there are many strong, advantaged muslim women, everyone knows that there are way too many muslim women that have a very rough life with very little rights.
Actually many people probably have no idea, or interest to find out - the only time they hear about it is probably via the SVP leaflets.
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Is the SVP so un-creative that they are incapable of making a successful argument without picking on the people at the bottom of the pile who have little voice or resources?
No, they're extremely creative at targetting just about anything that could win them a vote.
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If the SVP is supposedly full of successful, educated business people and farmers from one of the richest, most stable countries in the world with the best social welfare, why don't they go pick on someone their own size.
Because they want to win?
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I'm very surprised that other SVP members, and the Swiss population at large, is not even more outraged at stuff like this and this kind of smearing and ostracizing hasn't marginalized them to the ridiculousness.
You're surprised SVP members aren't outraged at their own advertising???

You don't think a significant proportion of the Swiss population believe they're ridiculous???

This is divisional politics! Compare with the UK - a big part of the population think Jeremy Corbin is the second coming, another big proportion think he's a luny Stalinist, and a majority think he's unelectable so don't really care anyway.
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How can they produce such demonizing posters of women of a particular race and still remain a large, viable party?
Money and votes.
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How can the Swiss, home of the UN, Red Cross and countless world peace organizations, be a beacon of peace for the world and yet a major portion of their politics is not capable of making a respectful argument without demonizing one of the most downtrodden segments of our world population?
By allowing debate and freedom, even if it means some idiots abuse that right.
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How can the Swiss go around the world negotiating peace deals, when they seem to stomach racial demonizing at home?
How could you negotiate peace deals between parties who are in many cases infinitely worse than the SVP, if you wouldn't even allow open debate at home?
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Too much of the Swiss population at large is tolerating the bar to be set too low. They are much more humane and capable of better than this.
Bullshit - Switzerland has one of the most open and challenging political systems in the world. The fact it is representative of petty human fears is a fact of democracy, and the checks and balances seem to generally work.
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