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Odile, the particular event occurred several months ago. Since we could not purchase the hamster, our 9-year-old daughter did indeed go through the grieving process and afterwards did not want us to get another pet with a short-life span. She wants a pet goat now, .
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I got a few groans from this thread. Not sure if folks took it as 'the US is a much better place than here' thing. I tried to clarify that we live here, love it here and if there is one thing we occasionally complain about it is related to service. This isn't a 'we hate Switzerland thread'! Nor is it about Barrack Obama, Donald Trump, drugs, guns, pharmaceuticals or any other such political agenda!
Mine was for the same thing Odile said in #92.

Your description clearly gives the impression your wife rushed out for a replacement. I can't help but wonder why you didn't mention the 2-week gap much earlier.

As for being allowed to pay with plastic:
When I spent a few months in the good ol' US not even legal tender in the form of $50 bills was accepted. In my mind that's much more remarkable than the plastic issue.

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Mine was for the same thing Odile said in #92.

Your description clearly gives the impression your wife rushed out for a replacement. I can't help but wonder why you didn't mention the 2-week gap much earlier.

As for being allowed to pay with plastic:
When I spent a few months in the good ol' US not even legal tender in the form of $50 bills was accepted. In my mind that's much more remarkable than the plastic issue.

I can't know what is going to be important to everyone. I answered to Odile regarding that already.


Not sure where or why you ran into a problem with the Ulysses Grant acceptance. But it could be because the $50 goes a lot longer there than it does here and people carry plastic for those kinds of purchases. Much easier carrying that plastic card than a stack of bills, isn't it? ;-)
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Not sure where or why you ran into a problem with the Ulysses Grant acceptance. But it could be because the $50 goes a lot longer there than it does here and people carry plastic for those kinds of purchases. Much easier carrying that plastic card than a stack of bills, isn't it? ;-)


This is very common in Canada as well. I've commonly seen signs where they don't accept anything over a 20. Mostly because of the risk of it being counterfeit.
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Lets face it - you need both plastic and notes, in the States ...... the plastic chops and forms the lines and the notes for the snorting - otherwise you're not a real American.

You can't get by with just one - ask Charlie Sheen, if you don't believe me.
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This is very common in Canada as well. I've commonly seen signs where they don't accept anything over a 20. Mostly because of the risk of it being counterfeit.


I suspect that it has more to do with the cash float... Once the majority of your customers pay electronically you don't get as many smaller bills and coins to make change with. I've seen signs that they don't take bills over 50, but being Canada you say "I'm sorry", then they say "I'm sorry" and then you find an amicable solution.
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This is very common in Canada as well. I've commonly seen signs where they don't accept anything over a 20. Mostly because of the risk of it being counterfeit.
I doubt that's the reason any more, since Canada changed to Australian-style polymer banknotes from 2011-13.
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Old 18.11.2015, 14:39
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I suspect that it has more to do with the cash float... Once the majority of your customers pay electronically you don't get as many smaller bills and coins to make change with. I've seen signs that they don't take bills over 50, but being Canada you say "I'm sorry", then they say "I'm sorry" and then you find an amicable solution.

This is true as well (maybe more so)--I guess it's similar in Switzerland to SBB automats indicating the maximum change given, or cigarette machines making you buy multiple packs for a certain bill


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I doubt that's the reason any more, since Canada changed to Australian-style polymer banknotes from 2011-13.

Very true, I haven't been back to Canada since they switched over :P
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Re: Miss the level of service in the USA

People are moving away from cash. I know I am. Even when I do use cash, I have usually just been to a bank machine, so I need change for a large(ish) note.


I used to work in a Baskin Robbins store, IIRC we used to have a 500$ float, 800 in the summer. On payday people would come with bills only and we would often run really close on change. I can't imagine many small businesses being happy with 1000CHF permanently sitting in the till on the off chance that someone wants to pay cash.
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People are moving away from cash. I know I am. Even when I do use cash, I have usually just been to a bank machine, so I need change for a large(ish) note.


I used to work in a Baskin Robbins store, IIRC we used to have a 500$ float, 800 in the summer. On payday people would come with bills only and we would often run really close on change. I can't imagine many small businesses being happy with 1000CHF permanently sitting in the till on the off chance that someone wants to pay cash.


I left Canada in 2008, and I would say for the last almost decade there, I only used cash at night clubs where they wouldn't do a tab.

Literally everything on cards, and never debit, all on credit cards. If they didn't take mastercard, I didn't spend money there.

I was shocked when I came to Switzerland and used a 1000.- bill to pay for a pack of gum at a kiosk and they didn't even blink or check the bill :P

It also took a while for me to get used to having piles of change---was never a major situation back home.
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I can't imagine many small businesses being happy with 1000CHF permanently sitting in the till on the off chance that someone wants to pay cash.
You're forgetting TIS

I suspect floats are quite a bit higher here and that cash payments make up a good chunk of the daily take.

I am staggered at the number of people in bars in the UK and US who pay for 1 drink with a card - doubling the time the transaction takes. And then that person's colleague also buys a drink - and pays by card. Then guess what happens when the next colleague goes to order??








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I am staggered at the number of people in bars in the UK and US who pay for 1 drink with a card - doubling the time the transaction takes. And then that person's colleague also buys a drink - and pays by card. Then guess what happens when the next colleague goes to order??
With the new contactless payment methods it's actually quite fast to pay by card. I pay my coffee at the kiosk at the station like that. Is faster then paying with cash...
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People are moving away from cash. I know I am. Even when I do use cash, I have usually just been to a bank machine, so I need change for a large(ish) note.


I used to work in a Baskin Robbins store, IIRC we used to have a 500$ float, 800 in the summer. On payday people would come with bills only and we would often run really close on change. I can't imagine many small businesses being happy with 1000CHF permanently sitting in the till on the off chance that someone wants to pay cash.
Is the cash in the till, at Baskin Robbins, known as an ice cream float?
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This is very common in Canada as well. I've commonly seen signs where they don't accept anything over a 20. Mostly because of the risk of it being counterfeit.


Actually the $20 bill is the most counterfeited US bill as it is the highest bill in regular daily circulation.


Credit cards are the king of the hill, by a mile, compared to any other form of payment in the US. Advantages are many:
1) you don't need to constantly stop and draw money from the account
2) you never run out of cash if you want to make a purchase (if you have the credit that is)
3) you are protected if the merchant tries to cheat you
4) now you get points on the money you spend
5) if you lose your credit card you just get another one - i.e. no money lost


We are still adjusting to the use of cash in Europe (not just Switzerland). Some annoying and embarrassing situations along that adjustment path, for sure, when we either didn't have cash (and obviously didn't get service) or we were just short and one of us had to run looking for a bank while the other was sitting at the restaurant as the hostage :-) ...


CHF 100 bill is widely in circulation here. In the US, the only time I saw a $50 or a $100 was when I went to the bank to get some cash to travel abroad.
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Lets face it - you need both plastic and notes, in the States ...... the plastic chops and forms the lines and the notes for the snorting - otherwise you're not a real American.

You can't get by with just one - ask Charlie Sheen, if you don't believe me.


Man, you are the 3rd Brit on this thread to comment on the drug usage in America. What, you don't have drugs in the UK so you are envious? Or is it the smaller brother syndrome? In addition to drugs and guns, we also have rock-n-roll!
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CHF 100 bill is widely in circulation here. In the US, the only time I saw a $50 or a $100 was when I went to the bank to get some cash to travel abroad.
US ATMs tend to dispense mostly 20$ bills.

But I never had trouble using larger bills that I'd brought with me from Switzerland.
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Lets face it - you need both plastic and notes, in the States ...... the plastic chops and forms the lines and the notes for the snorting - otherwise you're not a real American.

You can't get by with just one - ask Charlie Sheen, if you don't believe me.
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Man, you are the 3rd Brit on this thread to comment on the drug usage in America. What, you don't have drugs in the UK so you are envious? Or is it the smaller brother syndrome? In addition to drugs and guns, we also have rock-n-roll!
Yeah, but I know because I've lived there .... but don't take my word for it ....

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Re: Miss the level of service in the USA

I think credit cards make spending money too easy - this is why many banks/credit card issuers push this along with earning points, which is a fraction of what they earn. Many larger shops such as Globus, Jelmoli etc. push it too, as they know that consumers are happier parting with their money when they cannot actually "see" the notes.

This may be part of the over-debtedness problem in some parts of the world, where credit card debt of one card is merely paid for by another and then another until people are so far in debt, they have no chance to ever get back on top of things.

Another advantage of cash is privacy - do you really want companies and banks to know everything you do, where you go, what you buy, when you buy it etc.?
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BTW- it is not just in Switzerland that credit cards are not generally accepted for smaller amounts and in moutain/rural restaurants and shops. Same in France and Italy too.
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