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Old 22.11.2015, 08:01
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Re: Swiss Supermarkets

I know it doesn't resolve your all in one supermarket wishes but you should try Turkish groceries. The amount and variety of pastas, rices, spices, vegetables and fruits is very good.

Between them and lidl, I'm settle for the weekly grocery. I go to Hieber or Leclerc when I need something a bit more "exotic".
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I couldn't find red onions in a Walmart the size of Luton Airport, which proves... absolutely nothing.

Ah! that's because some super large supermarkets specialise in red herrings - something else which can be difficult to find.
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Old 22.11.2015, 08:41
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Folks it's a different country. Better get used to it.
Supermarket folks, there's a bunch of foreigners who's money you can extract if you'll be just a tad more innovative.
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Old 22.11.2015, 09:44
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Folks it's a different country.
Yes it is. Nice mountains but dull, unispiring food and the supermarkets reflect that.

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Better get used to it.
I guess you are used to it.
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Yes it is. Nice mountains but dull, unispiring food and the supermarkets reflect that.

Bit like some of the expats here too then i guess, set in their own ways with little or no tolerance of other customs or ways of doing things, not even talking about the bloody locals spouting off in German or even worse, Swiss German/French with no consideration to poor ignorant expats and WHAT not even the policemen and teachers speak English, and the supermarket girls, well, they can even understand what red onions are !

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Old 22.11.2015, 21:51
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Bit like some of the expats here too then i guess, set in their own ways with little or no tolerance of other customs or ways of doing things, not even talking about the bloody locals spouting off in German or even worse, Swiss German/French with no consideration to poor ignorant expats and WHAT not even the policemen and teachers speak English, and the supermarket girls, well, they can even understand what red onions are !
So what do you like best about the supermarkets here?
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Old 22.11.2015, 22:02
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So what do you like best about the supermarkets here?
1. The range. There's no choice, so no need to waste hours umming and ahhing over which can of imported bio tenderised non-GMO spiced kidney beans in 12% Himalayan rock salt brine to buy. Just pick up the tin of baked beans.

2. The prices. I hate struggling home from the German supermarket burdened with 8 bags of groceries in exchange for the €100 that I amassed from the VAT refunds from my last few shopping trips. In Switzerland, I simply hand over a CHF 200 note, bend over for a brief procedure (it's painless after a while) and skip merrily out of the supermarket with my single bag of shopping and a baguette cradled carefully in my elbow.
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Re: Swiss Supermarkets

We had that discussion already,


but what might be slightly of help could be a mention that what German, British or US supermarkets sell is mainly shaped for the locals' taste.
And US, British and German sumptuous dishes are worldwide really famous for being the Olympus of Haute Cuisine.


I think an average Swiss would call their stuff what it is. I.e. garbage.
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Old 22.11.2015, 22:33
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We had that discussion already,


but what might be slightly of help could be a mention that what German, British or US supermarkets sell is mainly shaped for the locals' taste.
And US, British and German sumptuous dishes are worldwide really famous for being the Olympus of Haute Cuisine.


I think an average Swiss would call their stuff what it is. I.e. garbage.
The voice of someone who's clearly never eaten proper American or British cuisine.
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Old 22.11.2015, 22:39
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but what might be slightly of help could be a mention that what German, British or US supermarkets sell is mainly shaped for the locals' taste.
And US, British and German sumptuous dishes are worldwide really famous for being the Olympus of Haute Cuisine.

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British food was pretty dire in the 1970s. It was partly due to the rationing from WWII*. The rationing only ended 15 or so years before that.

*You may have to look up what that was about if you're Swiss.

But British food has improved in leaps and bounds compared with Swiss food which is generally still in the 1970s. (unless you could somehow show me otherwise).


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I think an average Swiss would call their stuff what it is. I.e. garbage.
That's what I've been saying. Glad you agree.
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Old 22.11.2015, 23:38
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We had that discussion already,


but what might be slightly of help could be a mention that what German, British or US supermarkets sell is mainly shaped for the locals' taste.
And US, British and German sumptuous dishes are worldwide really famous for being the Olympus of Haute Cuisine.


I think an average Swiss would call their stuff what it is. I.e. garbage.
a. Because, of course, by contrast Swiss cuisine rises like Olympus above the Seeeeeerengeti.

b. It's been mentioned here a few times already that in addition to the stores in Germany, Carrefour, Géant, Leclerc and a few others are also amazing supermarkets. What does that say about French national cuisine?
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Re: Swiss Supermarkets

My point is that it's kind of odd being disappointed about a lack of choice in relatively small Swiss cities' supermarkets, especially if we are talking about stuff like marmite (urgh), brown sugar, grits, cheesecake, currywurst and hell knows what other kind of strange culinary invention a "non-initiated" wouldn't even try (and no, I really don't want that stuff ever again on my plate, thanks, for all those who think the Brits never managed to convince me to try).

Anyway, it's de gustibus ...

Don't expect the Swiss to adapt to you and your stuff (I hope they never will). If you find it somewhere, be happy and enjoy, but stop complaining all the time.
If you think shopping over the border suits you - fine, do try get your stuff there.
Sounds strange, however, the thing with regards to choice and cuisine, from People who come from cultures that hasn't even any idea about fresh bread and don't know what a simple Gipfel is.

And - yes - I do appreciate some stuff from French cuisine and, even better, from Italy. But although living 5 km away from Italy, I do my core shopping in Switzerland, as I simply don't want Italian food every day, and Zweifel Chips, Anna's Best, Delicorn, etc ... I don't find easily neither in Italy, which has a much broader offer of choice than any of the aforementioned countries, which are underdeveloped places by comparison, with regards to that matter.
I'm aware that you can find some Swiss product also in Italy, France or Germany, probably at a lower cost, but if I already go shopping abroad, I prefer products from that very place.

Anyway, if you still prefer ingredients from your old homecountries (which I can understand by principle), can't you simply order it on the net?


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That's what I've been saying. Glad you agree.
Aren't you free to go home (I mean, wouldn't be a nice Thing you die from starvation, would it? Nobody wants that ...)? Think, food there is so good that after a while, like so many others from those places, you could beat the fattest people on earth-contest there ...
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Yes it is. Nice mountains but dull, unispiring food and the supermarkets reflect that.



I guess you are used to it.
Actually I like it. I certainly prefer them to the offerings I saw in the hallowed UK and US.

Lidl, Aldi, Carrefour, etc originate from foreign chains, presumably it would be easy to broaden the dull local offerings. Yet they don't. Must be because they've integrated way quick.
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Re: Swiss Supermarkets

One of the advantages, if you can call it that, of being an expat, is having been exposed to the cultures in more than one country. This naturally leads us to compare the good and bad points of each country where we've lived.

This is not a bad thing (although certain people on this forum will always groan at any remark that dares to be critical of Switzerland :yawn)

Some things are done done better in other countries and some things are are not. Discussion about these differences and understanding why they exist is healthy and constructive. An understanding that this is not a perfect country is the only way to achieve change and better future.
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Actually I like it. I certainly prefer them to the offerings I saw in the hallowed UK and US.

Lidl, Aldi, Carrefour, etc originate from foreign chains, presumably it would be easy to broaden the dull local offerings. Yet they don't. Must be because they've integrated way quick.
I think you'll find that Carrefour didn't integrate very well into Switzerland. And Lidl and Aldi haven't exactly taken over, either. The Swiss Resistance movement is pretty fierce.
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Re: Swiss Supermarkets

The COOP in Oberwil is a case in point.

Apparently the largest COOP in NW-CH. Instead of stocking a wider range, they simply have more of the same... sigh.
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Even the local Denner sells red onions, what are you on about?

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That's the point. 8 times out of 10 you could rely on being able to get them. On this occasion I couldn't, in 3 different supermarkets.

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I know it doesn't resolve your all in one supermarket wishes but you should try Turkish groceries. The amount and variety of pastas, rices, spices, vegetables and fruits is very good.

Between them and lidl, I'm settle for the weekly grocery. I go to Hieber or Leclerc when I need something a bit more "exotic".
Agreed. The Turkish supermarket is normally included on my round of supermarkets after Lidl/Aldi and before Coogros. Great for Spices, Herbs, fruit and veg (up to half the price) and Lamb, which you'll only get in the main supermarkets once in a blue moon.
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Actually I like it.
I think that's pretty obvious. Otherwise they would have changed.


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Actually I like it. I certainly prefer them to the offerings I saw in the hallowed UK and US.
But what is it you like better?


I certainly appreciate the wonderful apples and other fruit and veg (but there is definitely lack of variety compared with other places - parsnips are one example).



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Lidl, Aldi, Carrefour, etc originate from foreign chains, presumably it would be easy to broaden the dull local offerings. Yet they don't. Must be because they've integrated way quick.
Actually I find shopping in Lidl a lot more exciting than going to Coop or Migros.

That's pretty sad, don't you think?
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Re: Swiss Supermarkets

I guess I'm lucky, I find most of what I need at my local Migros. It's actually pretty well stocked, much better than the Coop close to where we used to live. When I want to go "exotic", I go either to the ethnic food store at HB or the Corean grocery store close to Bahnhofstrasse, for example for things like spices in big containers, lentils and kimchi. Once a week I go to Globus because I have a fixation on their Alte Fritz bread, it's my weekend treat. Usually end-up buying a few other things like good tonic, and cheese.

That said, I try to go to St.-Louis or Mulhouse about once a month. But not always. It's not a necessity, but I like to have the option, I get to buy magazines and books, the Troll enjoys having croissants for breakfast the following day, Trollefar likes that the yoghurts are smaller and less sweet in France, and we all prefer the laundry to smell of Le Chat washing liquid. Not so sure we save any money though.
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Re: Swiss Supermarkets

To the OP, not finding red onions is a first world problem to me.

But I get your point.
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