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Anybody ever find Kirsche to make fondues on a regular basis in UK supermarkets ?
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Anybody ever find Kirsche to make fondues on a regular basis in UK supermarkets ?
No problem. You will have a hard time finding a remotely drinkable type of alcohol that cannot be purchased in most UK supermarkets... might not be the Zuger one, but close enough.
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Rosti
Fondue
Raclette with steamed potatoes
Pommes

It's still cheese and potatoes in the end, whatever you do with it.
There are still lots of things you can do with cheese and potatoes by adding just a few other easily obtainable ingredients. You can also buy plenty of things that are neither cheese nor potatoes.
It's not difficult to be creative in the kitchen and make things more interesting with the ingredients available here.

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There are still lots of things you can do with cheese and potatoes by adding a just a few other easily obtainable ingredients. You can also buy plenty of things that are neither cheese nor potatoes.
It's not difficult to be creative in the kitchen and make things more interesting with the ingredients available here.



Good point, if anybody need some ideas, here you will find a lot of recipes:


http://www.kartoffel.ch/


...oh wait, only two languages ​​to choose from...silly swiss...
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There are still lots of things you can do with cheese and potatoes by adding a just a few other easily obtainable ingredients. You can also buy plenty of things that are neither cheese nor potatoes.
It's not difficult to be creative in the kitchen and make things more interesting with the ingredients available here.
No of course. That was a bit of a jokey post.

But being serious - we do cook every night - from Japanese, Morrocan, Mexican, Italian, Swiss, French, Thai, Chinese, English, Spanish, U.S. and so on recipes.

And it's generally fine if you plan in advance - a trip to Zurich to the Asian market, a trip to Bettio at the other end of the lake for other items and so on.

But as I wrote on an earlier post I find the supermarkets dull - nothing to inspire. No spontaneity, no excitement.

I used to really enjoy visiting one of our local butchers in the U.K. on a Saturday morning - and seeing something interesting on display and just buying it and cooking it.
You can't do that here, everything's hidden from view or you need to order it two weeks in advance.

Another example is lamb - here in almost every supermarket you can only buy two cuts - racks of lamb or fillet - and that's it. Is it some kind of in-joke amongst the Swiss that I just don't get?

At a supermarket in the U.K. or France I can get about twenty different cuts of lamb (admitted more pricey than Switzerland but you pay for quality).

Lamb shanks
Lamb shoulder
Shoulder shank
Rack of lamb
Lamb chops
Barnsley
Rolled lamb breast
Filet of lamb
half or whole leg of lamb
Gigot of lamb*

etc etc etc

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* Although Lidl have superb gigots of Irish lamb at the moment.
(It's not Swiss but unless you order directly from a farmer, you're not getting that here either).
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Old 24.11.2015, 14:41
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Good point, if anybody need some ideas, here you will find a lot of recipes:


http://www.kartoffel.ch/

Your signature says you are Swiss.

You're doing nothing for the argument for Swiss food here are you?

You really don't get it, do you?
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Re: Swiss Supermarkets

Whenever I'm in the UK I can't find a really good Kalbsbratwurst. All British Supermarkets are crap, all food in the UK is crap, everything remotely British is crap and all people from the UK are crap. It is all crap.

Crappety Crappety crap crap crappy crap. All of it. Now, then and forever.

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AFAIK SPAR is only operating in German Switzerland.
... so they cover only 65% of Switzerland. That's just a little more than Crai.

Actually, they seem to be spilling over a little -- the Spar website notes a store in Avenches (VD) and one in Sugiez (FR).
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I find it odd that they wouldn't have "rollgerste", as it's a Swiss staple.



I don't have the impression the quality is bad. Rather the oposite. And the local Migros stocks veggies I wasn't even aware of before I came here.

The thing is, it's different here. One collegue of mine (from the UK) complains a lot about the lack of canned soups. My answer: What do you need canned soup for?


Well they didn't have it. I even wrote the word in case it was my pronunciation (more than likely) AND showed them a pic on my phone.


Fair enough point about the veggies I suppose, but I still think the quality is poor. I'm a quality rather than width girl.


As for canned soup: convenience, ease, to appease hunger when you have a remarkably busy life and haven't necessarily got a couple of hours every day to make everything from scratch.
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No of course. That was a bit of a jokey post.

But being serious - we do cook every night - from Japanese, Morrocan, Mexican, Italian, Swiss, French, Thai, Chinese, English, Spanish, U.S. and so on recipes.

And it's generally fine if you plan in advance - a trip to Zurich to the Asian market, a trip to Bettio at the other end of the lake for other items and so on.

But as I wrote on an earlier post I find the supermarkets dull - nothing to inspire. No spontaneity, no excitement.

I used to really enjoy visiting one of our local butchers in the U.K. on a Saturday morning - and seeing something interesting on display and just buying it and cooking it.
You can't do that here, everything's hidden from view or you need to order it two weeks in advance.

Another example is lamb - here in almost every supermarket you can only buy two cuts - racks of lamb or fillet - and that's it. Is it some kind of in-joke amongst the Swiss that I just don't get?

At a supermarket in the U.K. or France I can get about twenty different cuts of lamb (admitted more pricey than Switzerland but you pay for quality).

Lamb shanks
Lamb shoulder
Shoulder shank
Rack of lamb
Lamb chops
Barnsley
Rolled lamb breast
Filet of lamb
half or whole leg of lamb
Gigot of lamb*

etc etc etc

Here

(and for the link, local)


* Although Lidl have superb gigots of Irish lamb at the moment.
(It's not Swiss but unless you order directly from a farmer, you're not getting that here either).
I had got that you weren't being entirely serious in that post.

I have to admit that I don't often do my shopping in the supermarket. I tend to use them for the staples and go to the other local shops for the rest of the stuff.
We have a fantastic local butcher here and he often recommends stuff to me when he has it in. We had a fantastic roast pork joint will a lovely bit of crackling on at the weekend.
We tend to plan our meals around what the butcher happens to have at the time.

I agree totally about the lamb. On the occasions we do go over to France for shopping lamb is at the top of our list of things to buy ( we don't really buy any other meat there) along with fish. There is a good fishmonger in Neuchâtel but you have to go with what he has at any time as it depends on the catch of moment.
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We tend to plan our meals around what the butcher happens to have at the time.
That's what we used to do in the U.K. But not just with the butchers but with other shops too.

I like being surprised. Food should be exciting.

That doesn't happen here. Shall I avoid using the word "dull" again?
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At a supermarket in the U.K. or France I can get about twenty different cuts of lamb (admitted more pricey than Switzerland but you pay for quality).
It's generally quite a bit cheaper in France than CH, actually, especially if you look for non-French lamb, which is usually better flavoured anyway.
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Lamb shanks
Lamb shoulder
Shoulder shank
Rack of lamb
Lamb chops
Barnsley
Rolled lamb breast
Filet of lamb
half or whole leg of lamb
Gigot of lamb*

etc etc etc
In the UK maybe, but in France you'll probably find only about half of them plus maybe one or two others. Just out of interest, given that lamb is my favourite meat and I've been searching it out in its various guises in the 15 years I've been here:

Filet is seldom to be found;
Barnsley chop non-existent IME;
shoulder-shank - is that just a bone-in shoulder? - sometimes;
Gigot just means leg, which is usually available whole and is often found as slices (more commonly associated with the word Gigot);
Poitrine (breast) is sometimes found, but only bone-in and never rolled, nor the whole breast;
Chops, yes, and they term them differently depending if they're the nice regular-shaped ones or mishapen odds and ends;
Souris is usually smaller than a UK shank;
Saddle, which you missed, also usually available.

And just occasionally they'll stock mutton as well, which is great for stew, curries, chillis, etc. More flavour, needs slow cooking.

Anyway, yes, for meat, especially lamb, your point is valid, which is why we do nearly all of our meat shopping in France (and TBF most of the eating too).
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That doesn't happen here. Shall I avoid using the word "dull" again?
Really?

We'll go to our butcher and see what is new/fresh/on-offer - and go from there. We're currently working our way through "101 ways to use minced-lamb" because our butcher makes it fresh for us - because we asked for it. I suspect if we ask for lamb shanks he'll have those for us too. The key is to simply ask.

Swiss butchers, slightly unsurprisingly, butcher up the animals to provide the majority of their customers with the meat they want - which is often not the same as the joints of meat we grew up with. I've learned to adapt and will now buy "Swiss" joints for certain dishes and "off-menu" joints for others. Our guy is delighted that someone is buying joints of meat that people don't usually buy!

Our local guy is now producing his own salami from locally sourced animals - and then air dried in Valais; he produces (as already mentioned) smoked English Bacon; he produces countless varieties of sausage including Chorizo inspired versions, southern Italian style ones, along with classic Swiss seasonal varieties of kalbs and schweins bratwurst.

On the meat front I've never had it so good!
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Re: Swiss Supermarkets

Undoubttedly you can find Kirsch in some UK supermarkets.

Here there is a BIG difference in the selection carried by Coop/Migros in Vevey, where they cater to a more international demand (Nescafs) and in somewhere such as Chatel St Denis or Bulle where it is more a local demand
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That's what we used to do in the U.K. But not just with the butchers but with other shops too.

I like being surprised. Food should be exciting.

That doesn't happen here. Shall I avoid using the word "dull" again?


It should, but again, it depends upon your family requirements. If one of 'em is teething and will currently only eat cottage cheese, bananas, clementines and occasionally toast, then it limits somewhat. And I don't like going shopping daily.
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Your signature says you are Swiss.

You're doing nothing for the argument for Swiss food here are you?

You really don't get it, do you?

Are you serious? Ok, the Swiss have the reputation to be humorless and now I see why...but was it not obvious that I'm joking? ;-)


I'm also don't see any need to bring arguments for Swiss food. I never had the feeling the selection in the stores are to small. I like to cook and I'm normally very happy with the result.


I do not expect that everything is always available. To have such expectation is, in my eyes, very strange if you think about how many food will go to the trash just to make this possible.

Don't get me wrong, if I'm travel around, I'm also miss sometimes my favorite cheese, bread or chocolate...but I would not blame a whole country just because its not immediately available.

And I'm sure, if I really want something, I'm able to organize it.
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On the meat front I've never had it so good!
TBF the subject was Swiss Supermarkets, not Swiss butchers...
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TBF the subject was Swiss Supermarkets, not Swiss butchers...
TBF the complaint seems to be mainly the people can't find anything beyond cheese and potatoes.

And yet this place has never arrived in Switzerland
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I do not expect that everything is always available. To have such expectation is, in my eyes, very strange if you think about how many food will go to the trash just to make this possible.
That I agree with. Lidl seems to have sorted that out. If you get there too late then they've sold out of most of the fruit and veg.

More fresh stuff will appear the next morning.

And yes, too much stuff gets wasted - I don't need masses of choice everyday, I just would like different things on different days or weeks.

Lidl (again sorry to use this as a benchmark) seems to have a good idea with regard to this when they have a theme week with, for example, food from Greece one week and Spain the next.

Don't get me wrong, a lot of stuff from Lidl is pretty rank but some of it is really great.
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