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TBF the complaint seems to be mainly the people can't find anything beyond cheese and potatoes.
Do you think there may be a connection between the two?
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Old 24.11.2015, 16:53
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Do you think there may be a connection between the two?
People know how to shop and don't know how to cook.
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People know how to shop and don't know how to cook.
There's probably something in what you say. Confidents cooks will adapt to local conditions. They will miss ingredients, but as long as there is no point in complaining, they'll manage, find alertnatives, discover new dishes and so forth.

Less competent or motivated cooks (some just don't like to cook) will have a harder time adjusting.

I spent my first few years un exile bitching about the lack of vegetables in Norway and lugging foodstuff between Canada and my new home. Almost 19 years on, I focus more on what I find than what I don't find and I adapt our diet to local conditions. Otherwise, I would have gone insane trying to find good bread in Japan or delicious dim sums here.

But I do get the frustration people feel, it's just that I find it a) a tad unseemly; b) exaggerated; c) unproductive.
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Old 24.11.2015, 17:23
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There's probably something in what you say. Confidents cooks will adapt to local conditions. They will miss ingredients, but as long as there is no point in complaining, they'll manage, find alertnatives, discover new dishes and so forth.

Less competent or motivated cooks (some just don't like to cook) will have a harder time adjusting.
Is that me you think you are describing? Just wondering?
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Re: Swiss Supermarkets

Don't forget Tartiflette - and baked Mont d'Or in season now
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Old 24.11.2015, 17:31
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Don't forget Tartiflette - and baked Mont d'Or in season now
More melted cheese and potatoes.

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Is that me you think you are describing? Just wondering?
No one in particular, and I know some excellent cooks who still bitch about the state of things after 20 years in another country. Hell, I still do once in a while.

But I've caught myself bitching about Canadian, Norwegian, British, French, Singaporean and Japanese supermarkets, it helps keeping things in perspective.

But the thing is, it's easier to make do with what you get if you're comfortable in a kitchen and enjoy cooking. Limitations (due to variety or budget issues) can even become fun challenges and occasions to experiment.

I get the frustration, I don't get the strength of the expletives used.
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Old 24.11.2015, 18:34
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But the thing is, it's easier to make do with what you get if you're comfortable in a kitchen and enjoy cooking.
Or not in a kitchen. I love cooking on open fires or at a campsite with severe limitations with regard to equipment.


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Limitations (due to variety or budget issues) can even become fun challenges and occasions to experiment.
Although that's half the problem here. Getting back to the lamb - I don't want lamb filet or little cutlets for a tajine, I want cheaper shoulder which I have to go out of my way to get.
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Or not in a kitchen. I love cooking on open fires or at a campsite with severe limitations with regard to equipment.
I do both at the same time!

I just spent the weekend at the cousins' in Italy cooking on a wood-fired stove!

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More melted cheese and potatoes.

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Or not in a kitchen. I love cooking on open fires or at a campsite with severe limitations with regard to equipment.




Although that's half the problem here. Getting back to the lamb - I don't want lamb filet or little cutlets for a tajine, I want cheaper shoulder which I have to go out of my way to get.
Found it in Zürich, but it's not the easiest cut to find. The big Coop in Dietlikon, Micros at Glatt and the Micros where I live (Kreutzplatz) all have it, although the latter doesn't have it all the time.

Lamb is the meat I have most difficulty finding. I only use it for tajines, Indian food or Norwegian for i kål, all of which require the cheap shoulder part. But you know what, it's difficult to find in my part of Canada as well. On the other hand, here I can find calf's liver, which I never once saw in Norway.

The only thing I have never found outside of North America though is non pre-cooked lasagna. My mother's recipe just doesn't taste the same with pre-cooked or fresh plates. I'm sure there's a place somewhere where they sell them, so I keep looking and in the meantime I always bring a box from home and only the chosen few get to eat that particular recipe.
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Old 24.11.2015, 19:11
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here I can find calf's liver, which I never once saw in Norway.
Any part of veal was pretty impossible to find in either Norway or Sweden, not just the liver.

But at least there they have pinnekjott and smalahove, two types of lamb that you will NEVER find here!

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Any part of veal was pretty impossible to find in either Norway or Sweden, not just the liver.

But at least there they have pinnekjott and smalahove, two types of lamb that you will NEVER find here!

Tom
For pinnekjøtt, we've been known to bring it back in our suitcase (together with the rutabagas). Gives of an interesting smell; I advise to put it together with dirty laundry.

At least we're allowed to bring it in the country, in Canada the sniffing dogs would go mad if we tried. Also wonder what the patrol guys would say upon finding a suitcase full of sheep heads.

Calf is now easier to find in Norway, at least some cuts. But forget about the liver, I even asked a butcher once who said that it gets mixed with beef liver and is sold as such. When he found any in a bunch of livers, he just picked it up for himself.
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The only thing I have never found outside of North America though is non pre-cooked lasagna. My mother's recipe just doesn't taste the same with pre-cooked or fresh plates. I'm sure there's a place somewhere where they sell them, so I keep looking and in the meantime I always bring a box from home and only the chosen few get to eat that particular recipe.
Do you mean those boxes of dry lasagna sheets that you can buy everywhere -- e.g. Barilla? They're not long and curly on the edges, like in the U.S., but they're otherwise the same.
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Or not in a kitchen. I love cooking on open fires or at a campsite with severe limitations with regard to equipment.



Although that's half the problem here. Getting back to the lamb - I don't want lamb filet or little cutlets for a tajine, I want cheaper shoulder which I have to go out of my way to get.
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I do both at the same time!

I just spent the weekend at the cousins' in Italy cooking on a wood-fired stove!

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But like Tom and Jerry really, each trying to out do the other.
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Do you mean those boxes of dry lasagna sheets that you can buy everywhere -- e.g. Barilla? They're not long and curly on the edges, like in the U.S., but they're otherwise the same.
Well, I have to say I haven't looked for a while, but all the ones I have found so far state that you should cook the pastas first but use them dry. I use them for other recipes (like the spinach lasagna we had tonight), but for my childhood recipe it just doesn't work. I've tried fresh as well, doesn't taste them same.

But that's a major case of "I want my mother's food and nothing else", in other words, a real first world problem.
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Old 24.11.2015, 21:16
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But like Tom and Jerry really, each trying to out do the other.
Actually, I think you'll find it's two people who are enthusiastic about cooking and eating well.

You should try it once.
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Well, I have to say I haven't looked for a while, but all the ones I have found so far state that you should cook the pastas first but use them dry. I use them for other recipes (like the spinach lasagna we had tonight), but for my childhood recipe it just doesn't work. I've tried fresh as well, doesn't taste them same.

But that's a major case of "I want my mother's food and nothing else", in other words, a real first world problem.
Lasagna noodles don't need to be precooked at all. Use them dry. After the final layer on top, be sure to cover everything with a fair amount or tomato sauce (or better yet, fresh tomato slices)

You may end up with some slightly dried out or chewy spots around the edges. Not a big deal, totally edible, still delicious. (or you can add a little spoonful of sauce on these potential spots when you take the foil off for the final bake. I bake for 45 minutes with foil on, then 1/2 hour uncovered)

It's about half the effort this way.
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Lasagna noodles don't need to be precooked at all. Use them dry. After the final layer on top, be sure to cover everything with a fair amount or tomato sauce (or better yet, fresh tomato slices)

You may end up with some slightly dried out or chewy spots around the edges. Not a big deal, totally edible, still delicious. (or you can add a little spoonful of sauce on these potential spots when you take the foil off for the final bake. I bake for 45 minutes with foil on, then 1/2 hour uncovered)

It's about half the effort this way.
That's because they are pre-cooked and dried. It's exactly the ones I don't want for that particular recipe. I want the ones you have to boil first.
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