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Old 02.01.2010, 21:43
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May I nudge this thread back to prices ?


I'm interviewing next week for an IT contract in Zurich. I'm really worried about the costs there cancelling out the attractive rate.

My question: Is anything a bargain in Zurich/Switzerland ? The national GA looks like great value to me as I'd use the chance to see the country on many weekends. Apart from that all I see is mark-ups.

Here in Germany for example I'd say supermarkets, beer, local transport, football tickets are modestly priced.
Remember that CH is the size of a smaller German state. So you cannot compare a German national rail pass with a Swiss national rail pass.

Petrol is cheaper in ZH than DE. ZH taxes are probably lower (depending where in ZH) than DE.
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And do you really think the milk that you are drinking is from the goats and cows on the steep hill with the bell dangling from their neck? In order for us to survive, we need those big farms with the automated milking machine...otherwise we would pay 56 Francs per liter of Milk.
Hehe, actually, the milk I drink does (guess I got lucky... married into a Swiss Alp farming family ) Moooo... Anyone want to join me for a chocolate milkshake?
edit: just asked hubby because I was curious about the price... his parents get 80rappen per liter (this is Bio-Alpen Milch)... in stores he says it costs about 1.80chf per liter

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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Automobile tires are highly priced in Switzerland. Thank goodness for this site: http://www.reifendirekt.ch/

You can save lots of money on tires, as opposed to going to a local tire dealer. They even help you find a garage who will mount them for you.
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Old 02.01.2010, 23:01
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I walked passed by a asian take away today and glanced over the menu...the cheapest take away plat was 23CHF...thought it to be a little pricey for take away food.
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Old 03.01.2010, 01:16
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I walked passed by a asian take away today and glanced over the menu...the cheapest take away plat was 23CHF...thought it to be a little pricey for take away food.
It is. So whats the alternative?
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Wasn't talking to you.
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

But it's a global economy...

I've been looking at the difference between getting a mobile phone in Switzerland and in the UK. The way the pricing works in the UK is so far in advance of the Swiss I find it hard to comprehend. And I know that phones are global, but these days so is most stuff. Even food. Masses of it is shipped from eastern Europe into the UK at a fraction of the cost that UK farmers can produce it for - and it has to cross the channel!

Might it just be snobbery that insists on local produce? Or is it really the importance of having a local production centre?

Let each country do what it's good at and the world becomes either more holistic or a Rollerball-style nightmare. That's our choice.
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Old 03.01.2010, 19:05
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The mark up on UK magazines in Kiosk seems pretty excessive: CHF14.50 for a magazine marked at £3.60 (about CHF5.70)
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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

Seafood is a phenomenal price here (OK I realize that a land-locked country is not the best choice for seafood but even so the price differential in a global connected world is surprising...). Just before Christmas, I bought a not-particularly-generous single-person portion of dorschfilet cod from the Coop for CHF 15.00. In comparison, I visited the UK over Xmas and bought a pack of about twenty wild-caught scallops, enough for three servings, for less than £4.00.

I remember when I first arrived in Zürich seeing someone at the Globus checkout with a CHF 40.00 slim packet of fish. At the time, I thought it was someone buying a super-exotic expensive fish. Subsequently I realized it was maybe a two-person meal of an everyday fish
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I walked passed by a asian take away today and glanced over the menu...the cheapest take away plat was 23CHF...thought it to be a little pricey for take away food.
Come to Vevey, Chf 11.50 incl 33cl drink, Noix de Coco, Av. General Guisan
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Seafood is a phenomenal price here (OK I realize that a land-locked country is not the best choice for seafood but even so the price differential in a global connected world is surprising...). Just before Christmas, I bought a not-particularly-generous single-person portion of dorschfilet cod from the Coop for CHF 15.00. In comparison, I visited the UK over Xmas and bought a pack of about twenty wild-caught scallops, enough for three servings, for less than £4.00.

I remember when I first arrived in Zürich seeing someone at the Globus checkout with a CHF 40.00 slim packet of fish. At the time, I thought it was someone buying a super-exotic expensive fish. Subsequently I realized it was maybe a two-person meal of an everyday fish
Dorschfilet: Price in the Coop (31.12.09) was Chf 32.50 per kg so for Chf 15.-- you got 460 grams, if this is not generous for 1 person, then you must have a big appetite !

As for Scallops, there are a whole variety of sizes and types, with or without coral or shells. You really need to compare what is comparitive and not speculate, Switzerland is expensive for fish, it's land locked and we all want fresh fish which means expensive transport.

I readily agree the Swiss retailers gouge a bit, but then our salaries allow this.
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Old 05.01.2010, 10:27
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Dorschfilet: Price in the Coop (31.12.09) was Chf 32.50 per kg so for Chf 15.-- you got 460 grams, if this is not generous for 1 person, then you must have a big appetite !

As for Scallops, there are a whole variety of sizes and types, with or without coral or shells. You really need to compare what is comparitive and not speculate, Switzerland is expensive for fish, it's land locked and we all want fresh fish which means expensive transport.

I readily agree the Swiss retailers gouge a bit, but then our salaries allow this.
I'm pretty sure the dorschfilet was not 460g. By the way it may have been dorschfilet royale if that is different. I haven't really escaped from thinking in ounces but I think of 8oz / 227g as a normal portion of fish and it was not much in excess of that, if at all. As it happens, I bought some scallops last night. No sign of them in the Coop, so I bought four scallops (Jakobsmuscheln - there were no alternative types) in Globus. Cost was CHF 95.00 per kg of CHF 11.80 for four. That is expensive.

Obviously salaries are higher here, but it would be interesting to know the breakdown of where the extra money is going. My guess is that a relatively small percentage of the extra cost is on the transport into Switzerland. Then some percentage for all the higher salaries of staff along the chain, but what profits are the shops making compared to surrounding countries?
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In comparison, I visited the UK over Xmas and bought a pack of about twenty wild-caught scallops, enough for three servings, for less than £4.00.
20 for £4?! where did you get that from? were they frozen? i'm used to paying around £1.50 per scallop (fresh in shell).
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20 for £4?! where did you get that from? were they frozen? i'm used to paying around £1.50 per scallop (fresh in shell).
M&S and fresh, unshelled not frozen. It may have been a special offer, because there were lots of M&S food specials before Xmas, but I can't find them online to look at. I did find some other scallops that I bought at Sainsbury's (after M&S sold out) that were also fresh, unshelled and £5.49 for about twelve -

http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/grocerie...=1262686481135

I am a scallops newby and didn't even know they could be bought in shells until the last couple of messages. Is that preferable for any reason?

* I am moving the last question to the Food and Drink thread if anyone wants to discuss...

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Re: Absurd Swiss prices

I bought a Roland Street Cube guitar amp from the Music Hug near the Rathaus for 498CHF (about £300) before Christmas.

I realised that I could source it cheaper and ship it over for around £200, but I figured that I had spent time in the shop testing it out and probably would not have purchased it otherwise, so I handed over the cash. Equally I felt guilty about the idea of checking things out at the expense of retailers and then racing round the web to get a lower cost option.

When I was back in The UK at Christmas I bought another identical amp for use in the UK for £190, but I still think I did the right thing with the first purchase.
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I am a scallops newby and didn't even know they could be bought in shells until the last couple of messages. Is that preferable for any reason?
the taste is very sensitive to freshness so it's best to get them alive, if possible - which means keeping them alive in the shell.

of course, it's a real pain to have to clean/scrub/'butcher' an in-shell scallop - so there are convenience (as well as price) advantages to getting 'bulk' scallops.

EDIT: as an example, I butchered some live scallops over xmas and didn't use some of them and instead made them with the rest the next morning. it was VERY obvious which had been butchered the evening before and they were pretty tasteless in comparison.
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I walked passed by a asian take away today and glanced over the menu...the cheapest take away plat was 23CHF...thought it to be a little pricey for take away food.
the place in that case is far too pricey in that case, so that we could speak about "nepp"

look at this here

http://www.peking-garden.ch/LinkClic...id=128&mid=442

and the so-called "take-away" prices are the same as you pay when being full guest in that really nice restaurant with good service by remarkably nice young ladies ! Excellently prepared meals and very good wines. There may be cheaper restaurants even in Zürich, but the place is remarkable, and just two minutes from my apartment.

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But it's a global economy...

I've been looking at the difference between getting a mobile phone in Switzerland and in the UK. The way the pricing works in the UK is so far in advance of the Swiss I find it hard to comprehend. And I know that phones are global, but these days so is most stuff. Even food. Masses of it is shipped from eastern Europe into the UK at a fraction of the cost that UK farmers can produce it for - and it has to cross the channel!

Might it just be snobbery that insists on local produce? Or is it really the importance of having a local production centre?

Let each country do what it's good at and the world becomes either more holistic or a Rollerball-style nightmare. That's our choice.

Much of the food, particularily meat, you get in Switzerland comes from Eastern Europe, for instance from Poland. Beans come from Egypt, for example. Mobile phones from Finland. So much about "local produce"
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Seafood is a phenomenal price here (OK I realize that a land-locked country is not the best choice for seafood but even so the price differential in a global connected world is surprising...). Just before Christmas, I bought a not-particularly-generous single-person portion of dorschfilet cod from the Coop for CHF 15.00. In comparison, I visited the UK over Xmas and bought a pack of about twenty wild-caught scallops, enough for three servings, for less than £4.00.

I remember when I first arrived in Zürich seeing someone at the Globus checkout with a CHF 40.00 slim packet of fish. At the time, I thought it was someone buying a super-exotic expensive fish. Subsequently I realized it was maybe a two-person meal of an everyday fish
Most seafood in Switzerland comes from the grand market (les nouveaux halles) in Paris. Some stuff also from Hamburg and Bremen. And do not be mistaken, also the fish in a fish restaurant at a lake mostly comes via Paris.
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